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SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. fuzzy1

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    We had more disease and pandemic outbreak detection resources in place, assisting and cooperating with numerous other nations. Even in Wuhan.

    Somebody (at the Cabinet level) defunded and cancelled an important chunk of it.
     
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    Now that coronavirus is practically dead in many areas of thought, shouldn't we be watching the trends of the monkey pox? Seems 4 gay victims recently acquired it in the UK.
    Great, more pestilence.
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    i think bird flu
     
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    Bird flu is causing large culling of chicken flocks globally, and not for the first time. Thus it is a money thing. But bird flu has done poorly at jumping to humans. If it does so later ...

    I don't think that source of next pandemic can be guessed yet. Happily, people watching for it are still watching, although without full financial support.
     
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    somehow, that's either going to be blamed on trump or pootin.

    kind of like how current inflation is being blamed on em.

    lol
     
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    we got the 'honor':

    40038782
     
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    son, 37 year old, triple vaxxed and front line medical worker tested positive tuesday. on paxlovid, but there are questions about that. he fells like he has a cold and flu at the same time.
    his wife felt poorly yesterday and today, but still negative. 3 sons 5 and under still okay and 2 oldest still in school.

    i have been surprised that his hospital has not recommended 4th shot for them.
     
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    Did you notice that DPRK has finally joined the world in this regard?
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Even hermits have to get out every now and again…..
     
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    i noticed, and so did who
     
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    youngest son (8 months) tested positive today, 102f fever
     
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    As in now over 2 million cases of "fever", a “major national emergency”? In a country that had no previous vaccination program, even declining to accept its allocation from the international COVAX program? Now having sent three cargo planes on a very unusual trip to China to pick up an unknown cargo?

    It sounds like they have a very serious problem developing, beyond their medical system capacity.
     
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    Liaoning Province of China borders DPRK. This has been a quietly leaky border since I do not know when. This is one way to get Omicron into DPRK but I had not heard that Liaoning was 'hot'. Anyway, NorKos are feverish and it is to be hoped that Big Brother can help Little Brother.

    DPRK is now doing testing on 1000 per (some short time interval - day or week?) which is like one small hospital in sleepy Kunming :eek:. Ramping up testing seems like one of several approaches that will not help much. Were I to guess how China will help DPRK with this, it would be by medical equipment and anti virals. Might be political to suppose that such efforts will be aimed at DPRK political elites. So I will not.

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    Separately, based on China's reported experience with Omicron, most throat-swabbed PCR detection is of asymptomatic cases. That seems to present opportunities for virus to lung into DPRK. By however lungs cross that border, which I of course do not know.
     
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    Dead only in the mindshares of some people, not in actual activity.
    It was discovered 64 years ago. Certain rodents appear to be the natural reservoir. It doesn't seem anywhere near as contagious as covid-19 or smallpox, numerous small outbreaks have not led to any real epidemic.

    It and other pox variants do seem to have become more common since the end of universal smallpox vaccination, now that there are very large numbers of unvaccinated people, e.g. most American born since 1972. But a monkeypox/smallpox combo vaccine was approved in the U.S. in 2019, and is now included in our Strategic National Stockpile:
    FDA approves first live, non-replicating vaccine to prevent smallpox and monkeypox | FDA
     
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    Images of monkeypox pustules are click-bait gold!

    RSV seems to be an lesser clicker:

    RSV (Respiratory Syncytial Virus) | CDC

    Bird flu is reducing human food supply, but nobody gonna click on that. We be tired.

    I don't join others suggesting that we are done with COVID's post-Omicron versions. Higher transmissibility is now baked in. along with more asymptomatic carriers. No one can confidently say that more vaccine evasion and small mortality increases won't happen.

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    Sounds gloomy eh? Humans have revised the earth system to present more opportunities for 'our' lung viruses, and revised our meat supply in other virus-helpful ways. Viruses, for their part, only 'want' replication hosts. For more than a billion years they hit bacteria, but bacteria being diverse were difficult targets. Much later came eucaryotes (including us), also diverse and difficult targets. Earth dominance by humans has simplified viral work. We could not grow otherwise! We want this planet. Viruses 'want' replication hosts. We get this planet, to the extent we can constrain viruses bio-medically and socially. And in so doing, we'd not miss using viruses' ability to harm bacteria that also 'want' to harm us.

    This is a complicated landscape. Similar may develop for any other-planet civilization also aspiring big, but also confronting its (hungry) evolutionary precursors. But here I meditate on larger matters. Better to not follow me there..
     
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    fed health systems have given an ultimatum to staff:
    1 comply, 2 take pay cuts and be moved to non patient care positions, or 3 be terminated

    remember when they were "heros?"
    remember when they were "essential workers" ?
    remember when they couldn't get enough staff to care for all the truly important patients ?

    well, things must be really easy now as there will be hundreds of full time staff fired from each fed healthcare center.

    guess who will replace them ?

    that's right, their replacements will be contract/travel staff, who do not have to follow va/fed demands, and cost 3-4 times as much hourly.

    everything to do with control, nothing to do with providing excellent patient care.

    ... but we already knew this wasn't about a virus.

    let's see how those positions are filled in 23 days, since they currently have not hired, oriented, or trained any replacements. this should be fun to watch.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    We are going back to masks at work next week. The risk level for the county has been going up.
     
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    big time. but most seem to accept it as the cost of doing business
     
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    "fed health systems have given an ultimatum to staff" This sounds like an important matter, @privilege , so I hope you can provide some links where we can read about it.
     
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