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SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Jan 26, 2020.

  1. bisco

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    i am prepared to mask up in perpetuity
     
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    Me too:
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    you're probably right. controlling populations is pointless. that's why nobody tries to do it.
     
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    I bet you a nickel half the folks will believe it originated in a crate of chickens hung too closely to bananas

    the other half will know better
     
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    already answered, either you know people, or you don't.
     
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    About these rapid antigen tests ....

    On my first day of symptoms, I used one, and got a faintly positive result.

    On my last day of isolation (timed by days free of fever and malaise, as my dr.'s office instructed), out of curiosity, I used another one, and got a whompingly positive result.

    Called the dr.'s office again and they said "yeah, that's why we don't go by those for ending isolation. You may still be shown as positive on tests for a while." (Said that, for PCR tests—not the rapid antigen tests I was using—that could be for months.) Maybe it's explained by lots of non-infectious, destroyed virus particles still being present and reacting on tests.

    So this is kind of inconvenient. I have a trip planned in a few weeks, for which I'm being asked to do a rapid antigen test before arrival.

    About how long is this lingering-positive-on-antigen-test business supposed to linger?
     
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    Exactly. China tried it and failed. I'm glad you finally understand. Please continue to seek truth through facts and data and not chase conspiracy theories you read up on the internet.
     
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    with the latest variant, and an end to precautions, we know a lot more people who have contracted covid.
    unfortunately, it now turns out these home tests are almost useless. everyone is going for blood tests to determine what move to make next.

    it could very well mean that part of the current surge is due to people getting negative tests and proceeding with their lives while positive with covid.
     
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    This has been going on with asymptomatic people for awhile. There's just more of them now due to the latest variant being more contagious. And to proceeding with their lives while false positive, I have to ask the question. Why not? Health workers can continue to work even if they test positive. The quarantine length has been decreased from 14 days to 10 to 5 and now to 0 as long as you test negative? I can't keep up. The rules keep changing. With open hospital beds, I have to wonder why we can't move to Covid being endemic and go on a path towards normal? If you're going to say there are not enough health workers, there's not enough workers in almost every job. Chicken or the egg? Loosen up so people go back to work or continuebwith restrictions and vaccine mandates and less people get sick? I know I'm generalizing and it's not that simple. I'm just fed up and venting.

    I used to get semi-monthly Covid contact trace notifications from either my employment, my spouse or the kids. Literally, getting them every day now. I just don't care anymore. We're vaccinated and we mask up. Just tired of touching my face and getting pimples on the bridge of my nose.
     
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    Looks like the rapid antigen tests are not expected to show false positives after recovery the same way PCR tests are.

    Antigen Test Positivity After COVID-19 Isolation — Yukon-Kuskokwim Delta Region, Alaska, January–February 2022 | MMWR
    Testing positive after isolation: Are you still contagious?.
    https://khn.org/news/article/rapid-antigen-test-isolation-guidance/
    https://scdhec.gov/covid19/guidance-antigen-testing

    So it would seem that the whompingly positive result I had several days after the fever and malaise resolved might have meant I really was still infectious then.

    On the other hand, that last link above (from SC) does say "A patient who tests positive by PCR or antigen testing does not need additional testing for 90 days after the initial test if they recover and remain asymptomatic."

    I couldn't quite tell whether that was just a South Carolina rule or it came from some federal guidance.

    I'm almost curious enough to crack open another test and see what it says today. By the same token, I don't want to just burn through them for fun if the results can't be interpreted. I mean, I'm not spending my money on them, but I'm spending somebody's.
     
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    I think that is the case with most infectious diseases. End of symptoms isn't an end of the infection.
     
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    it must be different there. we have entered the endemic phase here, although surgical masks are still required in the hospital, and health care workers have to stay home until they test negative.
    everything else is back to 'normal'.
     
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    lol
     
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    if only there were some way to change the tests, so that LOTS of people tested positive and it was super scary for a while...

    nah, that couldn't happen.
     
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    I'm curious who was sending out semi monthly notifications, Ave why anyone would consider that useful info ?

    have you tried using one of the state/local apps for contact tracing ?

    they're hilariously bad.
     
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    I did crack open another one, and was finally negative on that one. It just took about a solid two weeks from symptom onset, more than a week after I pretty much felt better.

    Those antigen tests are supposedly not responding just to old blown-up fragments like the PCR tests can. So that strongly positive result I got on day 8 probably did mean I could still infect somebody then.
     
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    our family is coming over for a cookout today. the five that have had it for a week to 10 days or so have all tested negative.
    still, they will be socially distant for another week or so, just to be sure
     
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    you can only imagine the amount of people who don't bother to isolate, and the amount of asymptomatic people spreading the disease.
    might as well just throw in the towel after 10 days
     
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