Are new Toyota OEM battery modules as reliable as the originals?

Don't know of any day to like that at all on the Prius but I'm sure the guys that have done this nex cell business Good but will have some kind of data but not sure what I mean where they're made now I don't think you get a whole lot of choices they're trying to build places as fast as they can make the machines that consume the battery so I guess pretty soon we'll be doing this nonsense out in Utah or something too won't we so don't know how that's all going to play out I know batteries generally shouldn't go backwards but when stuff goes to China that can happen China used to be known for metallurgy problems. So batteries technically are somewhat metallurgical. So maybe they still have their problems like that

 

Panasonic is the manufacturer of OEM Toyota packs... They might have factories/supply chain related to China, but are based in Osaka, Japan. If you run across "OEM Toyota packs" that clearly state they are made in China, it's safe to assume that they're poor quality counterfeits of what Panasonic makes.

 

You believe? Where is the proof that modules are now made in China? Have you seen modules stamped with made in China? Or is this hearsay on your part.

 

i would expect panasonic to maintain their standards no matter where the factory is

 

Comparing apples with oranges.

Panasonic has been manufacturing prismatic modules in China for quite some time. This is not like outsourcing to China. As bisco says, you can expect Panasonic keeps a very tight reign on the quality coming out of their factory/factories in China.

 

Where the product is manufactured and where it is sold are two different things. If you're buying direct from Toyota or Panasonic you know it's legit. If you're buying a pack that looks similar to OEM but you're buying it from China, you can be fairly certain this is a knock off product that will be less reliable.

 

Apple products are produced by contract manufacturers, not by Apple. As noted the Prime Earth factories are majority owned by Toyota. They manufacture their own batteries and not farmed out. Big difference.

Gen 2 batteries are supposedly backed up, but why are Gen 3 and 4 batteries available.

 

because Jens reinforce or newer and silly folks will pay lots of money for them so there's good sales of their batteries probably because they're still new enough to look new and be okay to buy used even for a younger person No stigma attached where is the Gen 2 generally is going to be a person that's already been through all the hullabaloo in life generally. I would never get out of my Gen 2 for for a Gen 3 or 4 My girls have them but not me I'll stay in my gen 2 until it croaks or I croak no problem Love it. Don't need anything new don't care about payments or taking depreciation or going to look for a used one.

 

Suspect that Gen2 Prius is so far outdated, many Toyota stealership would rather avoid the hassle of dealing with them by no longer having an interest in selling them. Meanwhile the Toyota stealerships that still sell them are rare now and those folks have doubled the price, probably last of what they have in stock, but hard to know what's really going on?

What we do know is that Toyota has sold 15 million hybrid cars and OEM packs have been backordered in huge ways and it would NOT make sense at all if they no longer wanted to sell replacement batteries for that many vehicles. What does make sense is the huge peak in nickel prices last Spring combined with supply chain issues leading to temporary unavailability.

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Are you looking to buy a pack?

Canadian dealers. One shows stock, another says no longer available. I called the local dealer EnsToyota.ca for G951047031 Gen 2 packs, parts guy says 8 available at the Vancouver distribution center. $3000cdn.

https://www.toyotapartsdirect.ca/p/Toyota__/BATTERY-ASSEMBLY--HV-SUPPLY-BATTERY/47982945/G951047031.html

https://parts.scarboroughtoyota.ca/p/Toyota_2009_Prius/Battery-Assembly--HV-SUP-Drive-Motor-Battery-Pack-Vehicle-Battery/49021381/G951047031.html

https://parts.totoyota.com/oem-parts/toyota-battery-g951047031

https://www.oemgenuineparts.com/oem-parts/toyota-battery-g951047031

 

By the way, member @rogerthat mentioned his OEM Gen2 pack utilized Gen4 modules.

G951047031 Hybrid battery no longer available? | PriusChat

 

And I would say with new mfg standards and quality control . They're just trying to sell and get you're money . But not a lot of choices in batteries period. Look at other battery issues fires etc . Problems seem to be escalating ?

 

That's what I thought wen I got my Gen2