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Got a new ODB2 scanner and found these CEL codes but NO CEL on dash.

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  1. Kaptainkid1

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    Do I need to worry about these issues and are they hard to fix? It seems the Prius is driving fine and doesn't seems to have any ABS issue or brake problems. 20221103_135954.jpg 20221103_135958.jpg

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    How's your 12 volt battery due on a load test? The brake pump and accumulator that's being clocked as low pressure and whatnot is probably happening at some point the light will come on on your dash the brake pedal will go to the floor maybe and then it will take 2 ft standing on the brake pedal to stop the car and at that point your car like mine will need the brake accumulator pump assembly behind the inverter into the middle of the car kind of a pain to change expensive part to buy new getting harder to find them used . The JDM importers will get you one about 150
     
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    Those aren't CEL codes, those are all brake system codes.

    Are you not seeing at least one of those related warning lights—((!)), ABS, BRAKE, traction (the squiggly road)—on the dash?
     
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    No ABS lights and new Front brake pads and new rear shoes done the last 7000 miles. All brake bleed and clean new brske fluid.

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    Right now no brake issues the Pads and peddle feels normal. No fade or brake peddle drop. I even tow stuff and seems to work fine and these codes we're discovered over 2 months ago and just did a recheck of Prius ODB2 today and notice these codes are still pulling up after 2 months of driving.

    Should I reset these error codes and see if they come back? I'm not even sure if these kind of codes and can be reset. This is a new ODB2 reader and my last reader never could pull these codes. So it all new to me.. 20221103_155546.jpg

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    The codes you have are not about the pads, shoes, or fluid.

    Because of the C1241, it would be worth checking the 12 V battery. (That's not the only possible cause for C1241, but it's one that's easy and sensible to check.)

    The codes about the pump and low pressure could result if there's really just inadequate power getting to the brake system for running the pump. So if you find a culprit for the C1241, you might be fortunate and not have C1253 and C1256 after that. Otherwise, there's a troubleshooting tree for those if you still have them.
     
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    I put a new 12 volt battery last year. Could those come from the bad 12 volt battery from last year? I believe it died like 3 times before I decided to change it.
    My current battery is showing 12.8 volts and hasn't failed since I put in to the Prius since last year.

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    just reset/clear them.. if they go back immediately then you will have a big surprise at some point in time. How's the frequency of buzzing sound from the ABS pump?
     
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    So when the Prius is turned off I hear a buzzing sound every 5 mins and it turns off in 2 seconds. I thought that was normal. I assume it's coming from the ABS behind the inverter. I'm not 100% sure.
    I never hear a buzzing in the cabin of car parked or moving.
    Also she just hit 200000 miles and I know certain things begin to fail so it's also a 2009 if that helps.

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    do you hear buzzing when opening the drivers door?
     
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    No not all.

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    interesting, all 5 of our hybrids have made the brake actuator pump sound when opening the door, and occasionally while driving and pressing the brake.
    i have pretty good hearing aids though :cool:
     
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    I was thinking I have certain mods to the Prius 12 volt battery which drains the battery and charges it when I go camping. I have a MPPT controller and a cigarettes 12 volt plug outlet directly connected to 12 volt battery for my camping refrigerator when runs off grid. I also use the MPPT controller to manage my solar panels and car battery power supply. I can see this set up putting unnecessary power drain to my 12 volt battery. Can these fluctuations can cause my ABS error codes?

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    I doubt it your ABS codes are going to be ABS codes and they're mostly electrical and/or internal electrical switches in your actuator and that big block of aluminum with all the brake lines going to it just clear the codes and see what comes back because you have a code and the lights not on it's not frequent enough or it's not hit enough times or whatever the heck so there you go when it does and all those lights come on my car an '09 drove two years almost until I have the hard pedal Flintstones the car to stop it all that sort of thing then I change the actuator bled it without the computer and have been driving ever since without the lights and that's that
     
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    Not normal, normal is every several hours if no one is using the brakes.

    Some people do wait until it's every several seconds before they start to think "hmm, is my actuator getting worn out?" :eek:, but even at every five minutes, the "getting worn out" stage is a long way in the rearview mirror.
     
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    Ok I just opened the driver door and I hear a buzzing sound which I never knew it was associated with the ABS unit. It buzzed for 5 to 6 seconds and turns off. It happened every time I open the door. So what next?

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    Ok maybe this observation is a mistake about the buzzing frequency, since I just found out via @bisco that it happens every time I open the driverside door. So the frequency could correspond base on my door opening and odd occurrences.
    I really need sit at the Prius engine bay and find out how many times it buzzes between time lapse. Will do that tomorrow during the day.

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    I don't know what you're trying to figure out here when the lights are going to come on or win the pump and accumulator are going to fail enough to put the light on have no idea when it happens it happens and to what degree of severity it will happen some people the minute the lights come on it takes two people to stand on the brake pedal to stop the car from 30 mph and their car is rendered useless immediately for the most part or they could nurse it possibly home whatever. Others have the lights on and are driving around seemingly the brakes are working fine regen breaking is working everything is working sometimes for months sometimes for years other times the car falls flat on its face the minute the lights come on I don't know what to say except what of it you either are getting a part put on or you're not Don't know even for a newbie it's not a real bad DIY job it's just boring as hell it's not as fun as having your Oculus glasses on sitting on the couch with your gaming machine I guess or what have you It doesn't take any specialized tools really.
     
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    The voltage thresholds for setting C1241 are pretty darned low: dropping below 8.9 V for 3 seconds or more, or below 8.5 V. If your camping setup is ever pulling your battery low enough for that to happen, you should probably revise your camping setup. Such deep discharges will shorten the battery life too.

    Sometimes the C1241 won't be caused by crazy low voltage at the battery, but by deterioration of the wiring that brings the power to the brake system. After all, the code means the voltage arriving at the brake system was below those thresholds.
     
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    So you're saying don't worry about it until it happens. Ok sounds like a good plan.

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