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What it means to be on a waitlist for a new prius

Discussion in 'Newbie Forum' started by CMWarren, Nov 14, 2022.

  1. CMWarren

    CMWarren New Member

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    New member who is preparing to become a prius owner in the near future.

    I know that with the supply chain issues, and the popularity of hybrids with recent gas price fluctuations, that you can't walk onto a dealership and buy a new prius right there, and drive off with it in a short period of time.

    But I was wondering what the process would be to order one, knowing that the wait times for them can be months to a year.

    Do you put your down-payment down up front to reserve your car?

    Can you have the option to make payments while you wait for delivery so you can stay ahead on paying off even if you wait a year for the car?

    I am seriously thinking of just trying to put myself on the wait list in the next few months instead of late next spring.

    I always had used cars, so financing a new one is still all Greek to me. I know I have the credit rating and the financial capacity to get the financing. But how I end up doing it is dependent on know how it works in this weird supply chain issue market.

    Thank you.
     
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  2. prius16

    prius16 Active Member

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    First, Welcome to Prius Chat!

    All great questions!
    However, it's like going into a college, and saying "I want to know about Chemistry".
    That could take from a 5min quick overview, to many lifetimes of information, with everything in between.

    Imho, the youtube channel below, and maybe ?membership so you can ask questions and get correct answers and links to videos?, might be helpful.
    (I don't have any association with the channel, I don't even subscribe. But, I watch just about every day.)
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    https://www.youtube.com/c/YourAdvocateAllianceYAA/videos
    
    https://www.youtube.com/c/YourAdvocateAllianceYAA/playlists
    

    Also, fwiw, the new generation (2023+) is being announced on 11/15/2022, and interest rates are high. Therefore, today, there are often both current 2022 Prius Hybrid and Prius Prime (plug ins) on various lots at various times.


    First, ordering a new Toyota is Very Different than ordering a new GM or Ford, check out the links below:
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT1BWDsf90U
    MYSTERY OF TOYOTA ALLOCATION EXPLAINED BY ENGINEER! - How to beat the system when buying 2022 Tundra
    AutomotivePress
    Nov 19, 2021
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y3UozyzRAw
    HOW we order YOUR vehicle! Dealership vehicle ordering process!
    Toyota World
    Oct 31, 2021
    
    https://priuschat.com/threads/factory-order-anyone.231072/#post-3249854
    factory-order-anyone
    



    Also, the State and area that you are in, makes a *massive* difference.
    Therefore, be careful of "general BS advice".

    For buying a Toyota, Southern Calf and the NYC area, might as well be in different galaxies.
    And, buying a Toyota in most of the South, is almost like being in a different Universe.
    Buying a Toyota in the Plain States and Mid-West is almost like not even existing yet.
    The same goes for local rebates and laws. This is the United States. Not, Iran. We live in States, not a single law country.
    So again, general BS advice, is often just that - general BS advice.

    Imho, living in Orange County Calf, and spending $1000+ for a full set of mounted Blizzak snow tires is moronic. (assuming they don't drive into snow country :))
    Where as, living in Maine, and not having snow tires, is far beyond moronic.

    Local and State Laws also vary massively.
    Michigan ("the home of the 'Big 3' auto manufactures") has many laws very oriented towards car/truck/sub manufactures. Not towards the consumer.
    Whereas, Calf is near the opposite end, with a lot of consumer oriented laws.

    See my points. :)


    In General, Deposits are refundable.
    However, that is not always the case.
    Also, YES, there are some Very Scummy dealerships. Even if you had a refundable deposit, you can go ****** yourself, thinking that you'll ever get even a penny back. You'd have to spend $20+K with a lawyer and going into court, to get the money back.
    Think I'm kidding? Many Florida dealerships were doing similar scummy things for many Decades. Only because of the interweb, did the State Attorney General get off their fat worthless *ss, and do something.

    So again, take any advice with a grain of salt, unless it's about a Specific Dealership.



    Fwiw, I put down a $500 deposit for my car.
    Another dealership required $100.
    A third didn't require anything.
    All deposits were refundable.

    Wait times are extremely variable.
    A RAV4 Prime is 2+ years out.
    As the videos above talk about, "requiring some options", may mean you'll be waiting until after the sun burns out.
    It gets more involved for Hybrids, verses the Prime, since Hybrids have many "significant" options (like radio upgrade) with many models.
    For the 2022 Prime (plug-in), there are only 3 models. For a specific model, every option can be dealer installed.
    Where as, for the 2022 Hybrid, you'd need to decide which color(s), model trims, and options you require.


    For me, I required a "Metallic Gray Toyota Prius Prime Limited" - that was it.
    *I* did not care if it came with every possible option(many thousands more), or no options.
    I got lucky, and got my car in ~6 months.
    In general, for 2021 and 2022, Toyota sent Primes with few options, and let the dealer install any other option that the buyer wanted.

    Of course, things change.
    So, my experience, will be different than someone else's experience.


    Btw, the Toyota brochure, and just about every picture/movie is very poor in showing what the vehicle's color really looks like in person.
    Before I saw every color, in good sunlight, on clean cars, I liked the Silver color the most. However, for me, in person, on a clean car, in good daylight, I liked the the Gray Metallic color the most.
    So, ordering a 2023 now, without having any real examples of a Gen5 color, does present a slight risk. Imho, try to see the exact colors (by name), on another vehicle on the dealership's lot.

    Good Luck!
     
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  3. vopok13904

    vopok13904 New Member

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    That's great

    SM-G965U ?
     
  4. WayneAllen

    WayneAllen New Member

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    My forced education here in North Pittsburgh has taught me do not waste time at the dealership of your choice for hybrids or cars not made in the USA. I was told to do what i am about to share, and persistence, patience and willingness to drive long distances to make that purchase is how it is being allocated by Toyota. Thats what one dealership told me. So I kept looking at the inventory available from Toyotas website, almost a month later, a Prius popped up in another state, I called right away, offered sticker price and he said OK.

    I hope you all have more smiles in life to share with more strangers.
    WayneO
     
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  5. ukulelegeek

    ukulelegeek Active Member

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    1. I would try to buy from a dealer owned by Toyota. Some aren't, and can do whatever they like.
    2. Secure your financing from your own bank or credit union first. Don't finance at the dealership.
    3. Try to talk to current customers about their pros and cons.
    In this county, there must be 50 dealers. There's only one for sure that I'd buy from.
    And remember, there's a reason they're called "Stealerships."
    I knew a millionaire who wanted to buy a brand new car. So, he dressed in his grubby looking gardening clothes, and walked from dealer to dealer, only parking his own car a few blocks away. They all treated him like a bum, until he walked into a Lincoln/Mercury place. The salesperson was very polite. He bought a new Lincoln from that dealer that day, paid cash for it.