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ICE Charging Output To Hybrid Battery @ Idle

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Mr. King Andrew, Dec 16, 2022.

  1. Mr. King Andrew

    Mr. King Andrew Junior Member

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    I'm looking for any data on the charging output to the hybrid battery when the ICE is at idle. The ICE does charge the hybrid battery when idling, but what I want to know is the actual charging rate/output.

    If anyone has data on this from ANY model year of the regular (non-Prime) Prius, not just gen 3, please share it.
     
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    You can watch it with various apps (or a product like ScanGauge II) using the battery current custom PID, where negative values represent charge going into the battery.

    You can see around −15 amps or so, or roughly 3 kW, if you're stationary and not on the go pedal. The engine isn't "idling" then; it's running around the same RPM as idle, but throttled up to do 3 kW of extra work, and you can hear that change in the exhaust note.

    The figure is of interest in the thread linked below, because it influences the maximum size of inverter you might usefully attach to the high-voltage system. The engine and MG1 are capable of more than 3 kW, of course, by revving up to higher RPMs, but that just isn't anything the power management control ECU is programmed to do while the car's just sitting there, so in practical terms that 3 kW is about all such a system will have to work with.

    Electric power from a hybrid, connecting inverter to the high-voltage system | PriusChat
     
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