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Need Some Real Advice On My 2007 Prius with Red Triangle and Brake Warning Lights

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by 24gzerancr, May 29, 2023.

  1. 24gzerancr

    24gzerancr New Member

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    I had been driving around with a red warning light for a couple weeks and was on my way to get it checked out by toyota when the brake light, abs light, and exclamation light came on. Once I got it there they took a look at it and pulled a P0A84 code and C1256 and C1391. The P0A84 code was said to be because of a non functioning hybrid battery cooling fan. I was also told that I need to replace my brake pump assembly. They gave me a ridiculous price so I will be doing that on my own, and I have already ordered the over $1000 part. However, I have been seeing some posts saying that having a red warning light paired with brake warning lights is usually a sign of a bad 12v and nothing more. I checked the 12v about a month ago when the red warning light first came on and it was fine, but I did that by using the car screen. Do I have to absolutely check it by removing the battery terminals and using a volt meter or would the way I did I work the same? Also, I checked the battery fuse and it’s good, and I am currently trying to check the fan relay but I am inexperienced and having a hard time. I tried to get the fan to run by using Dr Prius to override the battery temperature to around 60 degrees, but I could not get it to kick on. I would not be surprised to find that there is faulty wiring for the fan because much of it was redone by the previous owner with solder and electrical tape, likely because of a corroded connector. My fear is that I have already ordered the very expensive brake pump, but is it possible that my brake pump does not need replaced? I have noticed that the pump seems to run quite a lot, and I thought that because I got those codes and the lights it was certainly a problem with the brake pump. Wouldn’t the 12v cause just lights and no codes? Should I cancel my order for the brake pump until I can fix the hybrid battery light? I really don’t know exactly where to go. I really want to be able to run this through with somebody who knows about these cars but I am trying to avoid being scammed out of my money. Any advice at all is really appreciated!
     

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    Might as well . It's time or very close .done a few really common. It's funny the 2016 and later Corollas and most Toyotas the part that fails in the brakes only 140 or 50 bucks
     
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    Might as well replace the pump or cancel my order? I did notice that the price for this specific car is unfortunately an outlier.
     
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    a low 12v can cause the computers to do some funny things sometimes, as reported here occasionally.

    but if your car is starting fine, it probably isn't the problem. you can get a free load test at autozone.
     
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    If the brake actuator is running every several seconds, even when you're not using the brakes, it's ready to be replaced.
    1. Be careful, go slow, put all fasteners into labelled zip-lock bags so you know exactly where they go. Take photos along the way.
    2. When I did mine, I used Techstream to drain the accumulator (pressurized fluid) back to the reservoir then immediately pulled the relays and disconnected the 12v battery. Leakage or not, I don't take a chance with pressurized hydraulic systems.
    3. Have some zipties available to hold wires and such out of the way once disconnected.
    4. Get some hose clamps so you can pinch off the brake fluid lines from the reservoir, otherwise you'll make a mess. I use small long nose vice grips with rubber tubing slid over the jaws. The tension is adjustable and works great for squeezing hoses shut.
    5. The inverter can be moved out of the way without disconnecting the coolant lines. You just have to wiggle the coolant lines out of their place holders at the radiator so you have enough slack to set the inverter out of the way.
    6. Do not forget to detach the inverter cooling system bleed line from front of the inverter before trying to move the inverter.
    7. Definitely use brake fitting wrenches to ensure you don't strip the brake lines. If they're all original, they shouldn't be super tight. The ones I've done have always come loose relatively easy, but this is something you don't want to mess up.
    8. If you have the opportunity, I HIGHLY recommend removing one from a junkyard car first, just to get some experience.
     
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    x2 for brake actuator failing. You will need a capable scantool to bleed the new actuator after installation, and to "learn" the linear solenoid offset.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
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    +3 to the above advice you've received regarding your brake system DTCs.

    I'll address your other question that has not been addressed so far.
    No, and no. There is a lot of erroneous comment in regard to the 12 V battery made here and in other places on the internet. That doesn't make it true. Too many folk get so blinkered it causes tunnel vision. Quite simply the 12 V battery just needs to be checked and tested that it holds voltage under load and that it has a decent charge then move on.
    This is most like caused by water dripping onto the connector for the fan (situated in the RR wheel well above the cooling fan). You have two options:
    1. Cut out the damaged connector and replace it with a 3-pin waterproof marine connector; or
    2. Cut out the damaged connector and simply solder each of the three wires together and heat shrink each joint.
    Good luck with these repairs.
     
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    The thing is that exact repair that you described where the damaged connector is cut out and the wires are soldered was already done before I purchased the car by a previous owner, only they did some shitty electrical tape on it rather than heat shrink. I looked around but I haven’t been able to find any obvious signs that their repair has failed, but I can’t be convinced that that isn’t the obvious cause of my issue. I believe there is some way to test for voltage to the fan connector, but I don’t know where to physically touch my multimeter to look.
     
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    My original plan was to just do the repair and then bleed the brakes normally, without using the scan tool. Then hopefully drive the car to toyota and have them work their magic on it to finish up the job. That makes sense right? I’d rather do that than spend a bunch of money on a scan tool that I have no idea how to use and I’ll probably end up using one or two times.
     
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    Thanks a lot for the help! Unfortunately I don’t have a techstream nor do I know anybody with one. How should I go about step 2 of your guide?
     
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    There are several things to check for code P0A84:
    • Wire harness or connector
    • BATT FAN fuse
    • No. 1 battery blower relay
    • Battery blower - Quarter vent duct (blower motor controller)
    • Battery ECU
    The attached inspection procedure will cover the testing in the order above.
     

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    Everything checked out with the wiring harness. I wasn’t able to do the independent testing for the motor controller or ecu since I don’t have a smart scanner, so It’s left me at a dead end. I’m going to most likely let some people at toyota look at it for me again and see if they can find the issue. I doubt there is anything wrong with the ecu, and if the wiring is fine, and the fan works, I don’t see any reason I should be getting the code. Thanks for your help btw!
     
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    There is another method for brake bleeding that you can attempt, which I've tried and it worked 100%. There's no guarantee it will work for you though!

    Go to harbor freight and purchase their brake bleed kit that allows a one person operation.
    Be sure to clamp off the rubber lines leaving the brake fluid reservoir prior to removing the actuator.
    After you're done with the actuator swap job, do not reconnect the 12v battery until after the bleed is complete.
    Fill the reservoir with fresh fluid. The kit uses a collection container that holds a few ounces of fluid. Use the bleed kit to pull 2 containers of fluid out of the rear driver side bleed fitting. Then do the same for the rear passenger side. Then front passenger, then front driver. Right or wrong, that's the order I used.
    When you operate the tool, you'll see fluid and air moving in the tube. A lot of the air is from the vacuum sucking air in at the hose/bleeder joint, but it's nothing to worry about. Be sure to keep the reservoir full. I just filled it after each full bleed container. I went through one large container of brake fluid. I did this recently and it worked. The brakes were as rock solid as the techstream bleed. This was done after installing a used actuator, so a new one may or may not have different results. Could be worth trying, and if not rock solid, maybe at least good enough to comfortably get you to a dealer for proper bleeding.