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Can a 2009 Prius tow 1000 lbs and 700 lbs of people and gear?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by Kaptainkid1, May 30, 2023.

  1. Kaptainkid1

    Kaptainkid1 Active Member

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    Two years ago I packed my Prius with 900lbs of gear and she drove fine but it was maxed out don't recommend it for other Prius drivers.
    What I learn is the Prius can handle a lot gear and still drive safe. I'm now doing another long road to Flagstaff with two scooter in tow. I know the two scooter and trailer weight adds up 1000 lbs plus the two rider and camping geat in car weights about 750-800 lbs. Does anyone know if this is too much? My concerns are towing scooters and weights of engine are behind the trailer wheel. I'm hoping this unbalanced weight doesn't rock trailer while driving. Doesn't anyone have advice? Will this be too much weight?
    Leaving tomorrow looking for advice tonight.
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    Well my scooters are made by the other big name big wheeled scooter company from Italy called Aprilia I have a trailer that's made out of plastic and aluminum that weighs 330 lb empty I have towed my $500 and my 150 in that trailer behind the generation 3 but not with 700 lb of additional gear in the car and people there was just two people and pretty much no gear and it wasn't a lot of fun in the North Carolina hills on flat land not too bad If you're willing to not try to set speed records probably not a huge issue till you hit the hills but that is a good bit of weight it may do it but it's not going to be real happy about it I generally just bring my 500 with me and leave the smaller scooter at home these littler 10 and 13-in wheel things are usually a little bit lighter my scarabeo is the size of a BMW fully bagged touring bike One of the most beautiful things ever made on two wheels according to many reviews
     
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    That's too much.

    Your car can safely stop about 1000lbs of stuff or people.

    You've got two trips worth there.
     
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    If the trailer has brakes, maybe.

    If not, then no.
     
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    Hopefully the transmission can hold up...try driving steady and true!

    But you know the rule...if you have a Prius, it's mandatory to, also, own a Tacoma or a Tundra! :)
     
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    I guess it's time to sell the Prius? Not enough money for a Tacoma or Tundra. :(
     
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    Why I always buy new. :)
     
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    New helps with money? Or helps with towing? I don't understand.
     
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    Don’t want to inherit someone’s towing workhorse vehicle, with knackered engine/transaxle. Probably does a number on suspension, brakes, wheel bearings too.
     
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    You won't know for sure until you try!! Many times, the stress of extra weight can be compensated for by going slower. It may be a slow drive, and big hills may be challenging, not to mention going down the other side, but the trip is up to you!

    I'd definitely try to get the cog of the bikes over the axle or just a hair forward of it. Maybe not that big of a deal with all the extra weight in the hatch area though, to keep the rear tires where they belong.
     
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    There are more than enough vintage F-250 workhorses in my extended family to skip having my own pick-em-up.
     
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    I got you!

    Ya, I'm thinking that with the way things are, used is a bad idea anymore. Now you have a lot of people not changing the oil on time and then selling their vehicles, and CarFax regerstering it as if it were changed enough times! You can't trust anyone anymore. I have no idea what I'll do when I need to replace the Avalon and I'm not looking forward to that day.
     
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    Made it to Flagstaff and highly do not recommend towing that much weight. It was a miserable drive out. Super slow under 60 most of the time. 24mpg and never got that bad of MPG ever.
    The tyranny was spinning on high the whole and couldn't pull up the hill going safe speed. Doing 40-55 upgrades and everyone else doing 70plus including 18 wheelers.
    I could recommend towing for very short distance With that much weight.
    I have Monday for the return trip. Wish me luck with no problems.

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    It's not just the weight, but also the aerodynamic drag. My brother-in-law once towed a light, but boxy shack behind his Corolla. That didn't go very fast either.
     
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    So does this mean no towing campers behind prius?
     
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    That depends on the camper. But generally I would not recommend it.
     
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    Final round of Stupid things you can do with your Prius.
    Made it to Flagstaff from Los Angeles and it was 500 miles going much of it up hill and very unknowingly on fast traffic in AZ highways with very poor maintenance. So the shortest route was also the most dangerous for slow cars with heavy loads. Highway 40 is not maintained very well for any highway in United States. I felt were driving in Mexico and pot holes at 55 mph were not very safe. Trailer in CA you must stay to the farest right line and max speed is 55 which was fine with my set up but in AZ trucker we're doing 65-75 on average in the slow lane and my Prius could only pull up hill on grades maybe 50-60 mph max. I got average 24-26 mpg. Never seen that bad gas mileage on any of my road trips with gear.

    Questions? Did I damage my Prius?
    I had 203000 mile on the clock and driving a 2009 14 year car. It did not burn any oil which I found amazing considering the engine was on the whole time at 4000-5000 rpm peg for 12 hours road trip up and 10 hours trip back. Does the tranny show any issues after my return? NO! So my Piston soak help with cutting back oil burning.
    Was the rear springs damage? It seems they bounced back with that heavy tongue weight. I did have spring helper on too managed any sagging in the rear.
    Why use the Prius as a tow vehicle?
    It was set as my camping rig and it also has a tow hitch installed. I was able to run my fridge for 6 days with Prius hooked up to my ecoflow and inverter to charge to my ecoflow. 1kw ecoflow only powered my camping freezer/fridge for 18 hour before needing recharging. The Prius was set to stand by mode and inverter charge back the ecoflow in 3 hours of stand by.

    Final thoughts don't tow 500 miles with 700 lbs gear and 1000 lbs of trailer weight. You might get there with many problems and headaches but it could also gone horribly wrong too. Never doing that again. 20230605_103048.jpg 20230602_174429.jpg 20230602_103214.jpg 20230606_083043.jpg 20230606_083854.jpg

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    I would get the car up on a lift and check all the suspension, especially in the rear. I'd, also, change out both the engine and transmission fluids and check for any metal stuff in the transmission fluid. Also check the wheel bearings, especially in the rear.

    You can borrow my Tundra for you next haul...she used to tow a 33-foot camper that weighed 8,000 pounds up and down Colorado Mountain passes with no problems! (We now have a 5,000 pound 22-footer that we enjoy just as much!)
     
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    How's the oil consumption going? I've also towed a lot with my prius. Felt like it was really hurting the car lol. I have towed a maximum load ~1600 miles which was yamaha 150 outboard and a 95 wave runner 1100 on a double jet ski trailer. Felt like it was towing a parachute the entire time. I just aimed for 3500rpm's the entire time and was able to maintain 62-73mph on the trip with the semis. Towed from 100k to 200k and then finally swapped to a sequoia for towing.
    I would say the only thing i really noticed is you need to change the trans fluid every 60k and use a magnetic drain plug. My fluid was nice and burnt and metallic when i finally changed it. Didn't seem to hurt it though, but im sure it took some life with it. Also, towing like that i would say standard intervals to go 5000 miles, but towing heavily i would say 3000-4000. Really works the oil.

    Fun story: one time i was going max throttle up mountain grades for 20 minutes and didn't realize the battery quits charging from the hybrid system while you're doing this. Cruise control shut off and the car had to idle for 30 seconds to charge the battery back up before it was ready to go again. lol
    Poor prius she's a masochist.
     
  20. Tombukt2

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    Oy bet.. this sounds like it's a thing huh? I mean it's one thing if this is a $700 second third fourth car etc but do this to my main mode of transportation just because I have some event to go to because I do well I don't think so Not in my car that I need everyday that's what a second third or fourth car is for that's why I have those they don't cost me anything to keep literally so my good car I keep is my daily driver to bread and butter make my money whatever I do with it The other two or three are to have these fun antics with if I blow one up in the middle of Colorado oh well I can fly home and when I arrive home my good car is sitting right where it belongs. This seems to mitigate a lot of weird issues You're not spending lots of money shooting from the hip doing a lot of nothing for no reason if you have extra vehicle or something.