Triangle of Death and Multiple Codes

Is the little green car in the left of the MFD display green or red when driving the car? If so you're inverter pump is probably bad

 

That is, some of the MFD screens happen to have a green car in the top left corner, just as part of the art for those screens.

If there is a problem that causes the error banner to be drawn over the top portion of the displayed screen, the red car that's at the left of the error banner ends up in roughly the same place, and can look like the little green car turned red.

 

So then to be clear some MFDs and generation 2 cars the little thing that some people call the turtle which is next to the sea and the consumption screen or what have you that can be just a piece of artwork that doesn't do anything it's always green forever Is it backlit and have two shades of green like the one that actually turns red that's not artwork like the one I have I'm sitting behind right now? I think even my '06 tourer had a changing turtle or changing car and it did not have the higher definition colors that I have in this 09 but I still think it changed but I can't say that for sure I did not have to change the inverter pump in that car The car had other problems and was taken off the road before any of those kind of problems even arose

 

What some people call a "turtle" came from the Gen 1 where it actually is an icon representation of a turtle. When the "turtle" appeared it indicated there was a hybrid system problem and the car was in limp mode. This limp mode was also coined turtle mode presumably because of the appearance of the turtle icon on the screen.

On a Gen 2, the icon to which you refer is an icon representation of a car, that always was and has never been a "turtle".

It appears that the Type A screen on the earlier 2004-2005 release is a brighter shade than the Type B (higher res) screen introduced in the facelift model with Nav.

Just to be clear, the green car icon is just a piece of artwork. The red car icon on the left that has an exclamation mark through it is just superimposed on the screen at the top left side This icon is imposed on whatever screen happens to be displaying at the time:



I hope this helps.

 

Now I'll have to go out and unplug my funky inverter pump and see because the pictures above are 2004 and 5 looking things I'm in a 2009 without nav but if you say that's the way it is no problem I know that when my inverter pump failed the first second third time whatever it was I would know it by the dash lighting up and then when I looked up at the MFD the green car was now red I don't remember a! Through it and I don't remember a red band across the top of the screen and blocking out any of the screen that happened when my hybrid battery was failing I thought the screen was going bad it was staying like that for a while ..change the hybrid battery. Screen restored

 

The red car icon can appear for many problems–the P0A93 being but one. Reading the codes tells the complete story.

Only 2 of the four images in my last post are the low res screen. The other two are the high res screen. In any case, the idea is the same, they just look slightly different.

 

Anyway to your original question to the guy that posted all this if you're buying the cheap water pumps that aren't $149 from the Toyota dealer made by the right company for Toyota apparently the cheap knockoffs somehow they've done a lot of work to make sure they fail immediately or within 2 months or whatever it is I've beat a couple of these open including a factory original everything internally looks almost identical I can't even find cheap solder cheaper wires really It all looks generally cheap between the original Asian unit and the fakes We are talking the inverter plastic pancake pump.. so whatever it is that messes up internally I'm not sure what it is in the three that have failed and might cars I can't see anything burnt I don't smell anything burnt I cut them open carefully so I can see all of the parts the impeller and the all of that the mag drive unit whatever it is nothing where as on some other ones that I've taken apart from other systems I can smell the burnt electronics when I cut the pump open but in the Toyota ones the ones I have here that failed not so much so find an original as cheap as you can that's going to get you your best longevity or you can go the route I did and change to a completely different shape style and design pump a year and a half so far haven't even thought about it working great cost nothing I took it out of the midship area of a '05 I think It's in between the accumulator pump of the brake and the firewall part is a little pump in between there looks like it's for a spa

 

If replaced with an OEM pump from the dealer, how many miles were put on that pump in the last 4 years? (they don't last forever)

Please post a link or part# to the pump mentioned so that others know what to purchase, thank you.

 

As seen second from top left in the Gen 1 indicator stencil:



The Gen 1 turtle didn't necessarily mean a serious hybrid system problem or 'limp mode' (which would be a much more drastic cutback in power). You could see the turtle if, say, the battery got overwarm, and the car would cut back a bit on power from the battery while that was true. Seeing the turtle would warn you, say, not to try punching it to seize a narrow gap in traffic, because you wouldn't end up accelerating as fast as you thought.

When the battery cooled down again, the turtle light would turn off again.

 

What are you using to scan your car? Where are you getting code descriptions and info?

P3000 is the hybrid control system saying "hey, the HV battery ecu says it's got a problem- you should go over there and see what's going on". I prefer a scantool that specifically indicates whether any ecu does or doesn't have codes.

C1310 is the brake control (ABS) ecu saying "hey, the hybrid control ecu says it's got a problem- go check it out".

P0A93 is the hybrid control saying "hey, the inverter is getting too hot". On a Gen2 it's (9+ out of 10 times) most often a bad coolant pump. A Toyota pump usually lasts around 100k miles. Any other brand is a crapshoot. It's easy to check if the pump is moving coolant in the inverter reservoir.

However, there can other things that cause the inverter to run hot. Could be a radiator clogged up (internally or externally). Could be other restriction. etc, etc.

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