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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by USMC1968, Jul 13, 2023.

  1. USMC1968

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    Hello-
    New user here and potential new owner. Someone at work is selling a 2005 Prius base for about $2500. It has 200K. It has a new battery (small one in the rear) but he said the AC is not working (unknown why) and it needs a new Evaporative Canister assembly (I guess that is what the dealer told him). I am fairly mechanically proficient but new to Hybrids. If I pull the trigger on this vehicle are these fairly doable DIY projects. It has been well maintained according to Toyota records I have read nothing but good reviews on this vehicle model / year. Would it be worth going for it or will the potential repair costs (if not DIY) not be worth the trouble?
    Thanks in advance
     
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    Pretty much easy to handle no special tooling you'll need to round up some way to use TIS software from Toyota there's a buttload of ways to do it but you'll need to get it done more than likely unless you want to buy an upper end scan tool that can cost money. When it comes time to do the brakes and bleed the brakes when your ABS accumulator pump goes bad and it will You want to have the software to do that as well as read all of the myriad of computers that is Prius so that's something you need to be looking at like right as you're making the deal on the car I bought an '09 for $2,000 at the beginning of the pandemic that essentially had been maintained and needed nothing of course it was near 12 13 years old so it was coming time for the hybrid battery which I handle that and then next came the brakes got that done miraculously without having to use TIS to bleed the brakes I was lucky Don't think you'll be so lucky apparently it doesn't ever happen. This is a great car to own unlike the generation 3s and anything with the two Z engine. You're doing the right thing parts are plentiful if you know what you're doing You should be good for a long time if you want to be till you get tired basically.
     
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    welcome!
    gen 2 is very reliable overall, but there’s no way of knowing about this particular gen 2.
    A/c is best left to professionals because it is high voltage compressor and some special systems.
    Brake actuator can be expensive and the more difficult side of diy.
    Hybrid battery will need replacement at some point.
    It’s an old car and just depends on your level of commitment.
    If you can’t diy something, mechs are hard to find and expensive.
    All the best.
     
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    Thank you for the responses. This will be a second car, mostly for highway commuting. I was going through all the Toyota records and they were meticulous with the oil changes and the service intervals. I have a Quick Jack so I could get it up there to change the evap canister assembly. I think it was the dealer who told him that's what it needed so maybe they just wanted $$, not sure. I have been using my Google-Fu skills to find videos on how to trouble shoot that particular item. Thank you!
     
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    why are they selling it for 2500 when the market is about 5000 or more in most places?
     
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    Start by telling us where you are. Some areas of the US could cost you $10k in common repairs while other areas might be half. Hv battery and brake booster alone could be $5k, the ac and evapative system could add $3k. Many burn oil and could be ready for an engine. Could be an expensive $2.5k hybrid.

    Few general shops know much about these items, forcing newbees to a dealer. Be careful.
     
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    Could be a sale through military channels which are generally way below market. Could be just normal honest folk but just want to get out of the car and not spend their life answering questions to people that know about these cars that are going to be calling I paid 2K. For mine at the beginning of the pandemic very similar conditions not military. The prices hadn't Even gone up yet for the pandemic this is before that and this would have been about proper for the '09 that I bought before the pandemic nonsense. I used to get Toyota Corollas and yaris and others for FREE. Just up until right about when the pandemic started people used to drive them over here and leave them because they needed front hubs brake jobs whatever I've had people drop a car off here on their way to the dealer to go buy a new one me like here you go Tom You can have my Corolla needs a front hub car and beautiful condition and I drive that sucker for 5 7 9 years whatever it is. The beginning of the pandemic and just before are the first time I've bought cars in I don't know man like 14 years.
     
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    Getting sent overseas. Military and probably because they know the buyer will have to spend some money to fix the Evaporative canister and AC. I am in the Maryland / Washington / Virginia area. He also told me the previous owner hit something on the road that damaged the engine. That was back in 2012 when the car had 10K miles on it. Unknown how many miles the used engine had. It was replaced at the Toyota dealer with a used 2009 engine, GEICO paid for it. They have not had any problems with it. He has the paperwork for that.
     
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    Looking at the Toyota service history
    Drive belt was replaced in 2021 and a few times before that
    Rear brake service done many times, Sublets repaired (whatever they are)
    Wipers / all bulbs replaced in 2022
    P0A80 "REPLACE BATTERY PACK". TECHNICIAN REPLACED MAIN HYBRID BATTERY. This was in April 2022
     
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    Make sure it’s a new oem battery
     
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    How could I tell if it is OEM? It was done by the dealer so I am assuming yes? But you know what happens when you assume..
     
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    If there is no refrigerant in the system, then most likely you will have to replace the evaporator coil hidden deep in the dash.
    Recently i've changed one on 2005 Prius and I have 2 more 2006 and 2008 with the same problem leaking refrigerant.
     
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    if it was done at a toyota dealer, it will be logged in the maintenance records at toyota.com/owners
     
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    Yep, it is :)
     
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    Is that an expensive repair? I have seen folks do it on the YouTube and have the whole dash/ steering wheel taken apart to get to it. Looks like $$$$ in labor alone
     
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    new oem battery is a big deal, worth as much as they're asking for the whole car
     
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    is cat theft a big deal in your area?
     
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    Extremely labor intensive, but DIY-able. Then you'd take it to the A/C shop to let the pros do the final evac, seal test & recharge.
     
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    Not terrible, I live in the Frederick Maryland area, kind of more rural. Car will be garaged.
     
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    Yeah, both batteries were replaced with Toyota OEM at the dealer. I just went to look at the car and it will need front struts and a good detailing, he brought the price down to 2K becasue of the Evap canister and non working AC. I am going to try and DIY the evap canister issue but might leave the AC to the pros, not sure. It is a secondary car (for son) so it would not be to terrible if it sat in the garage in pieces for a bit , still debating that one:)
     
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