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ECU or Battery (or both)???

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by Chuchusdaddy, Jul 15, 2023.

  1. Chuchusdaddy

    Chuchusdaddy New Member

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    I have a 2010 Prius with over 128,000 miles. It's never given me any trouble at all. I've done routine maintenance: oil changes, brakes, tires, etc. No indication that anything was wrong until I started it at the end of March and a "check hybrid system" message appeared on the dash.
    Since my local mechanic doesn't deal with hybrid issues, I brought it to my local Toyota dealer's service dept. After running (and charging for) a diagnostic, I was told I needed a hybrid battery smart unit ecu, but "may need hybrid battery if smart unit does not fix issues...."
    They charge plenty for the ecu (around $800), but I'm really concerned about the "may need hybrid battery...." part. I also took the car to Green Tec Auto where they performed a free diagnostic that showed trouble code POAA7 - hybrid battery voltage ISO sensor. In addition, Toyota said I needed a new 12v battery, so I bought and changed myself. The warning disappeared for a short period after disconnecting and reconnecting the original 12v (the store sold me the wrong 12v battery). Ultimately, I bought and installed the correct 12v, and the warning is still there.
    Does any of this make any sense to anybody, and does anyone have some advice for me? I want to keep the car running but am reluctant to take it on a long trip. I did go to another mechanic who deals with hybrids, and he thought it was best to have Toyota handle it. But, there's no way I'm paying Toyota (close to) $5,000 for a new battery! If I knew replacing the ECU would be it, I'd bite the bullet and do it.
     
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    This is because Toyota is greedy on so many levels. For starters the ECU you need only costs $100 used on Ebay and Amazon, but Toyota would rather rob you of an additional $700 even though there's zero difference between new and used for this electronic item

    Second, Toyota's greed have got them to stick with more profitable to them antiquated Nickel-based battery that haven't been considered advanced technology since the late 1980's. They refused to switch to lithium at scale for decades now and these awful batteries leak a tiny bit of toxic electrolyte at the seals which cause the corrosion that fried your ECU.

    This is one of the most common problems with the hybrid battery when it get old. It's a pretty easy fix though, you just replace the bus bars and voltage sensor harness (Wire, Frame, No.2) and ECU. Takes a couple hours and if you or a friend or family member wants to learn how you're looking at less than $200 parts and whatever you have to pay for labor... But take it to a Toyota Stealership and they'll rob you of $1500-$3000 to do the same thing. It's so infurating!
     
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    Yeah I wouldn't buy the ECU You can get used ones I've got a few here they're plentiful so I wouldn't think the hybrid battery ECU would solve your problem there may be a plug problem which you can look at yourself usually the pins get nasty on the plug that goes to the hybrid battery ECU that's probably what they saw and now they're going to get you for an ECU and I guess they'll splice in a new plug or whatever they can do It's like molex pins in the plug. Check out campers advice above and look at that yourself if possible or take it to a shop that's not afraid to look at it once the orange plug is out of the battery things are pretty safe generally speaking no one's going to get killed per se less than doing something really silly
     
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    thanks for the response!