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    Okay so I have two SKS keys and fobs both of the gray labels underneath the SKS logo look to be the same and have the same numbers both of the physical keys open and lock the car in question One of the remotes the minute I get near the car SKS is detected and the light begins to flash on the remote The remote will unlock the car start the car and not have to be in the slot. The second remote when the other one is put away the second one is never detected by SKS and the red light never blinks on the remote when I push any of the three buttons on the remote the light lights it will unlock the doors and it will start the car if it's in the slot or if I hold the remote close to the start button but it will not unlock the doors by walking up to the car and lifting up on the door handle I have to physically push the button I do believe I'm seeing both remotes and TIS so is the one that's not lighting up when in range of SKS needing to be reprogrammed or is there some button in TIS that I can just push to make it work again so the one that's not working is in the drawer and the one that is pretty much stays in the car.
     
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    Maybe the second fob needs a new CR2032 battery. What is the voltage of the current battery in that one?
     
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    Okay so yesterday I had new cases shipped in I moved over the transponder chips and the boards to the new cases both of the remotes have new 2032 batteries everything is good there they all light a red button when I push a corresponding button the remote red button lights One remote is fully functional It unlocks the doors it senses I'm near the car when the remotes in my pocket and unlocks the door when I reach my hand for the door handle starts the car while the remote is in my pocket The other remote will unlock the car doors by pushing the button lock the car doors I think activate the alarm with the red button but it will not sense from my pocket or even holding the remote next to the door handle I have to push the button It will start the car if I hold the remote close to the start button and push the start button I don't have to slot the remote but SKS doesn't sense. It's not that big of a deal I can do without that that remote can just go in a drawer I didn't know if there was something I needed to do in tech to straighten it out All I see is in tech with this vehicle is two remotes I don't know which one is which on the screen Guess it doesn't really matter both of the gray labels in both of the remotes The numbers match and the physical keys unlock the driver door manually.
     
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    I'm also extremely interested in finding out which computer the heads up display speedometer speaks to I have a code saying that the gateway for my dash is not working and that's I'm guessing why I have no speedometer or gas gauge I've never had this code before and all the other generation twos that my dash didn't work there was never a code It was just replace capacitors replace the assembly get it rebuilt by Texas hybrids and put it back in and it works now I have this code that deals with the gateway all the wiring in the car looks perfect no rodents no bugs nothing no code history except the p1151 for the coolant tank that was declined $2,400 repair and the car still driving not overheating nothing very strange
     
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    Trying to figure out what powers the MFD right now I got the heads up display to come back on and the gas light is flashing like the dealer said it was and the customer said it was with the MFD seems to be getting no power The clock works and I can change the kilometers to miles per hour but nothing goes on the screen I need to find out what makes those big for the middle size white plug carry power to the MFD I thought it might be something to do with the main speedometer but apparently not.
     
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    Are you sure the MFD itself is OK? If you put a good one from a different car into this vehicle will it work? If you put the "broken" one from this car into another of your cars, does it work there?
     
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    Okay I'm dealing with a nav MFD I took a known good regular non nav four button MFD from one of my other cars it's not installed at the moment but I plugged it in with the correct plugs plugged up It's the middle plug and it's the one that has the power wires for the MFD and there's a small white plug when you don't have nav when you have nav you get a big long plug the midsize plug and the little tiny white plug all on the back plus a blue plug that has something to do with the nav only and then the plug to the clock and the buttons for kilometer and odometer The clock in the kilometer odometer buttons work and light up the MFD is black as is the replacement from my '09 without nav but it should work just as the regular MFD would if the car didn't have nav I'm pretty sure this is correct because in my '05 I think I plugged up a non nav MFD and that just to check a long time ago and it did work but my nav MFD in the 05 was out and I just replaced it with a non nav MFD and then I remove the nav stuff from under the seat and it's I don't know where not in the car. I will try the nav MFD in one of my other working rolling cars when I get a minute but for some reason I don't think so I also have codes for gateway which I've never had before in any of my other Prius I would have thought I would have had this code when my display went out gas gauge and speedometer. But that's not been the case in the '09 I'm driving I have no gateway codes no anything and the display goes out whenever it wants to. In the car I'm working on currently The nav MFD is blank and the display goes in and out with a flashing gas light as it wants to and I have codes for the gateway non-communication etc I can look them up and get them for you exactly
     
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    I seem to remember the 4-button and the 6-button are wired differently, in particular the B+ in wire so you can't just swap them over. You stand a good chance of blowing some magic smoke unless you rewire one of the plugs.

    You should find all the details in the wiring diagram.

    You could find some info searching in one of either the Gen 2 Prius Accessories & Modifications or the Gen 2 Prius Audio and Electronics forums.
     
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    I will take a look nothing smoked at all everything is real quiet in this car and now all of a sudden with the gateway communication issues I'm also getting the code for battery leakage over to the side of the 12 volt from the HV or what have you so I'm going to undo the plug and do the down and dirty test to see if that's really happening or if this is just being reported because of non-communication with other systems through the gateway I've never seen the gateway issues before in any of the five or six Prius that are here. But plugging up the other MFD didn't do a thing no smoking no anything today I will fire up the car and run through the plugs with my test meter and see where I'm picking up power if at all maybe that'll be the trick there's no power coming through the wires at all to power the MFD because usually even bad MFDs when you apply power to them they're not they don't stay black especially if you do it at dusk or something like that you'll see the screen trying to act with the electricity I guess or something's trying to happen what I'm seeing here seems to be like no voltage dead and I'll find out in just a little while.
     
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    Have you reviewed these threads?

    MFD does not light up | PriusChat
    Pulled OBD fuse, now MFD black. | PriusChat
    ACC fuse for MFD, audio and clock | PriusChat

    So it might be a fuse, although having the clock work suggests it isn't the ACC fuse.

    At this point I think you need the wiring diagrams so that you can trace where the 12V disappears, or at least where it should be on the plugs in the dash, and if it is actually there or not. Ditto for the grounds (assuming the MFD doesn't ground through its mounting screws.)
     
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    Gonna probe plugs in about 3 hours . I'm thinking it has to do with this gateway code business that I'm getting that will not go away I can clear the other codes and do whatever but the gateway keeps instantly popping back up like there's no communication between some things. And the MFD seems to be one of the somethings. I'm guessing all of those plugs that go to the upper portion of the back of the MFD are going to be having no power like in zero I'm almost willing to bet on it It's being cut somewhere else wherever this communication error starts one of these computers or something it's not feeding the signal.
     
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