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2023 Prime: First Flat 19" Low Profiles

Discussion in 'Gen 5 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by tovli, Aug 15, 2023.

  1. tovli

    tovli 2023 Prius Prime replaced 09 Prius

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    Guess it had to happen eventually. 2023-08-15 Flat Right Rear.JPG

     
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    Damm, that sucks.
     
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    It could have been a sidewall....
    new or plug?
     
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    Carry plug kit and compressor and pliers. Fix while still on car.
     
  5. tovli

    tovli 2023 Prius Prime replaced 09 Prius

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    Thanks for that reminder! Forgot to pack pliers, but not a problem since I discovered this at home. Added pliers to the jack, tire iron, pump, and plug kit I'm carrying at all times now.

    First plug attempt leaked, but second try is holding with no obvious leaking. I don't have soapy water in my car to check if plug is leaking if it happens away from home next time.

    Plug kit "glue" was weird. I was expecting clear rubber cement stuff, but this was white goo (calcium carbonate for some reason).

    Toyota App is so weird - constantly said Tire Pressure good, even after refreshing on Vehicle Status page, and clicking on "See Details", but there is an easy to miss clue to why it never showed the flat tire: "Tire Status Updated: Aug 14, 2023 at 8:28 PM". So clicking on refresh does something, but does not always refresh the tire status from the car!
     
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    Doable, but easier with the wheel off. I experienced similar, with a plug/repair kit AND scissor jack and spare (3rd gen std equipment), luckily in a parking lot.

    It was near-freezing out, and very breezy. I managed to score some insulated gloves in a store (keep a pair in the car now), swapped to the spare, drove home, plug repaired the flat (in the house), reinflated it with a floor-standing bicycle pump, reinstalled it.

    This was close to a decade back; I finally replaced that set of (snow) tires, including the repaired one, about a week back.

    Yeah I don’t think glue is a requirement; the plug-repair kit I’m using (BlackJack) has a tub of goop, but it just a lubricant. The plug repair mechanically fills the hole, could be done dry. The rope plugs are very tacky though.
     
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    I hit my repairs with a heat gun after the contact cement has had a chance to set.
    Sometimes throwing a patch over the top and melt it in, depending where on the tread the puncture is.

    I don't know what to say about the app, other than I've read a lot of complaints about how it functions or the lack there of.;)
     
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    tovli 2023 Prius Prime replaced 09 Prius

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    Much easier, and it gave me opportunity to familiarize myself with the new scissor jack with ratcheting handle and new extending tire iron.

    And you didn't get a heart attack? I got up at 6:30AM and the temp was already 83F outside. I was dripping sweat everywhere with the electric tire pump only taking two minutes to inflate the tire. Cannot imagine if I had had to use my bicycle pump.
     
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    Ouch! Not as bad here but pretty toasty for us, and a lot of places don’t have AC, ours included. Todays high predicted to be 90F.
     

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    tovli 2023 Prius Prime replaced 09 Prius

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    I was lucky this time that it is a pluggable flat. In a hurricane escape I am not going to feel comfortable without a full size spare, so I ordered it all up.

    - 195/50R-19 TOYO EXTENSA A/S II from TireRack.
    - VALVE SUB-ASSY, TIRE PRESSURE MONITOR, PN: 42607-47020
    - WHEEL, DISC, PN: 42611-47381
    - ORNAMENT SUB-ASSY, WHEEL HUB, PN: 42603-42170

    (Called the local Toyota Parts Dept to get the wheel part number since the website gives five different wheels all with "Exact Fit For Your 2023 Prius Prime". Shipped to them so if it is wrong hopefully they will refund me. The website has this "Agree to assume responsibility" thing you have to check.)

    Drove a little on the plugged tire today. Probably will put the new tire/wheel/TPM on and keep the plugged for the hurricane spare.
     
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    You ordered the correct wheel. Getting the wheel hub was a bit extra(;)), since you'll only ever use four at once, but I suppose it would make rotating tires that little bit easier and quicker.
     
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    I think the main word in Toyota’s description is “ornament”, and “hub” refers to its location. As usual, Toyota manages to come up up with a totally obscure title, in this case for a centre cap.

    more succinctly a “hub cap”, but that’s come to mean a full wheel cover
     
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    Hello, this is a side question to @tovli : by any chance, do you have a picture of the TIRE PRESSURE MONITOR, PN: 42607-47020 ? I'm trying to figure out the manufacturer reference of this device. I wish to order 4 of them here in France, but for some reason (silicium component shortage ? My Prius Prime was delivered with only one electronic key) they are really really expensive here. I suppose there are equivalent devices to be found but was not able to find any yet.
     
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    tovli 2023 Prius Prime replaced 09 Prius

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    Sorry, I also wanted to see it before they put it in, but spent the time arguing with them about not needing them to charge me $300 “to program the sensor”.
     
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    I’m not sure they’re wrong. I understand with 5th gen you can swap between 2 sets of wheels/tires, and the car will recognize both. But “maybe” a first “introduction” is still required? Not sure. Either way, $300 is pretty brazen.
     
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    I learned recently that after putting new sensors on a Hyundai, the car just figures it out on its own with a bit of driving.
     
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    When I had my wheels changed the day I picked up the car, I asked about swapping the sensors; they told me it was a no brainer w/no charge- the sensors worked great with no issues afterwards.
     
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    If that’s the original sensors, just swapped into new rims, there’s no reason they shouldn’t continue to work fine.
     
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    tovli 2023 Prius Prime replaced 09 Prius

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    I am sure they were wrong. What about my “didn’t need them to do it” experience leaves you still not sure?
     
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    I’m wondering if an initial setup of TPMS sensors is still required, and then with subsequent swaps (between tire sets), the sensors are automatically recognized.