1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Coolant detected in exhaust

Discussion in 'Gen 4 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by The Professor, Feb 23, 2023.

  1. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    44,896
    16,122
    41
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Yup. Must be a new set of advisors.
     
  2. Nico3d3

    Nico3d3 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2021
    34
    14
    0
    Location:
    Quebec
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Base
    So glad, I first read this post before going to the dealership. I printed the TSB and showed it to the adviser. They ran a diagnostic and, it came out as faulty heat exchanger. They told me it's covered under emissions warranty. It cover parts AND labor so, nothing to pay except the one hour they took to do a diagnostic.
     
  3. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    55,393
    38,635
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    That should be free too? That “diagnostic fee” is something that came about in maybe the last 20 years, and they love it.

    Or you could charge them for doing the TSB legwork, lol.
     
  4. Nico3d3

    Nico3d3 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2021
    34
    14
    0
    Location:
    Quebec
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Base
    And that's why I usually avoid them like the plague. They asked me if I wanted them to do maintenance work while they had my car. I politely refused, told them to just do the diagnostic and give me back the car. By the way, I had a chance to look at their inventory while I was waiting. I asked a seller if they had any 2023 Prius. He told me they have a two years waiting list but they did receive one last week. He said it was reserved for the manager's wife. Not only do they charge inflated prices but, they keep the good stuff for themselves. Wow, just Wow.
     
    #64 Nico3d3, Jun 15, 2023
    Last edited: Jun 15, 2023
  5. Ernieslad

    Ernieslad Junior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2019
    1
    0
    0
    Location:
    UK
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Business Edition
     
    #65 Ernieslad, Nov 15, 2023
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 15, 2023
  6. mike5100

    mike5100 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2023
    3
    0
    0
    Location:
    uk
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    III
    Great information on here and I thought I would do the top end pipe bypass on my daughter's car, but there's on limited similarity with the video. The pipes and connections look the same if I shine a torch in, but there's no way I could get my hands or any tools in to do any disconnections. Is it really a Prius he's working on> If so has he removed lots of panels to get at it - looks to me like all the area around the windscreen wipers would need to come off as well as probably the air intake box?
    Mike
     
  7. ROGIE29

    ROGIE29 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2024
    2
    1
    0
    Location:
    WINNIPEG CANADA
    Vehicle:
    2018 Prius
    Model:
    Four Touring
    My wife has a 2018 Touring with approx 90K. Noticed no heat when we had our first cold snap in late october. checked collant and it was really low. Topped it up and kept an eye on it. Sure enough, it kept losing coolant. Took it to the dealership TWICE; the first time,(November 23) the only thing that they could come up with after having it for 5 HOURS was to swap out the reservoir cap, which I did. $200 + $60 for cap. Went home relieved but skeptical.
    Three weeks later, coolant level drops again. Keep topping it up. Brought it back Dec 23. ANOTHER 6 HOURS AND $180 This time they ruled out heater core and head gasket . Here's his report:
    " Check heater core,throttle body, egr,exhaust for leak. Nothing found.
    check engine cylinders for leak,nothing found.
    Ran through everything in the engine coolant system and could find no leaks. Nothing to fix if I can't find anything wrong"

    I mentioned the TSB but they were somewhat dismissive. There's never been an engine light indicating any problem. What should I do?
     
  8. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    108,639
    49,358
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    call toyota, the dealership is purposefully avoiding the issue for some reason.
     
  9. FuelMiser

    FuelMiser Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2008
    1,293
    883
    0
    Location:
    Monument, CO
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Be glad there's no warning light. You'd get "engine overheating, shut down immediately" and possible engine warping/damage when the coolant runs out.

    What do you want them to do? You're out of warranty. It's pretty clear it's the heat exchanger leak issue. Either spring for a new exhaust or figure out a way to do the bypass. Order the Gates 18777 Premium Molded Heater Hose for $8.85 from Amazon.com and either DIY or find an independent mechanic to remove the existing hoses and install the bypass hose between the car and catalytic converter. Reuse the existing hose clamps.
     
  10. rjparker

    rjparker Tu Humilde Sirviente

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2008
    7,913
    4,676
    7
    Location:
    Texas Hill Country
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Three
    I would do the bypass as a simple diagnostic test and then decide whether you want the new exhaust
     
  11. BiomedO1

    BiomedO1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2021
    1,436
    782
    0
    Location:
    SacTown, Ca
    Vehicle:
    2021 Prius Prime
    Model:
    LE
    Yep, and don't forget to zip-tie the hoses way from heat sources and sharp edges that can potentially rub a hole into the hose.

    Good Luck....
     
  12. jyii07

    jyii07 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2020
    39
    19
    0
    Location:
    NYC
    Vehicle:
    2016 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    was cleaning out the MAF on my 2016 prius with 134k miles and noticed low coolant the other day. took it to the dealership with the TSB in hand and they wanted to charge me $220 for a diagnostic to confirm it was indeed the issue. I wasn't 100% sure so I told them I'd come back. I'm planning to continue monitoring the coolant levels and see if it keeps dropping and if it does then I'll go ahead and take it to the dealership to confirm since they'll waive the $200 fee if its covered under warranty. Are there any other tell-tale signs that I should look for? No check engine light, heat seems to be working fine, mpg is low (but has been low for the past few months).
     
  13. sylvaing

    sylvaing Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2023
    1,027
    424
    0
    Location:
    Canada
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    White smoke from the exhaust
     
  14. Kindke

    Kindke Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2018
    80
    74
    0
    Location:
    London
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Business Ed. Plus
    Bumping this thread because it now seems I have this same issue, indeed every Prius owner 2016-2019 is going to have this issue

    Im from UK like Original Poster , I think someone else mentioned also its not covered by UK warranty anyway.

    Urgh what a nightmare , I dont see any point in getting the issue fixed as the engineering flaw remains and will re-appear again in a few years.

    Just to post this video again which explains the problem very well

     
  15. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    55,393
    38,635
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    The problem may just be poor welding, that was remedied. Still, Toyota’s response is very frustrating.
     
  16. rjparker

    rjparker Tu Humilde Sirviente

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2008
    7,913
    4,676
    7
    Location:
    Texas Hill Country
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius v wagon
    Model:
    Three
    Usually Toyota makes revisions to parts that cost them money for warranty repairs.

    If it were my car it would be bypassed for $5 with hardware store parts.
     
  17. Kindke

    Kindke Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2018
    80
    74
    0
    Location:
    London
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius
    Model:
    Business Ed. Plus
    even after watching the video I dont have the confidence to do the bypass myself. my car is currently worth approx 10k

    im thinking of just selling it and washing my hands of Toyota forever
     
  18. Mr.Vanvandenburg

    Mr.Vanvandenburg Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2007
    1,027
    349
    0
    Vehicle:
    2020 Prius Prime
    Model:
    Limited
    It would be nice if mechanics would charge their part cost and only for the labor. It isn’t thousands to buy the new part, which doesn’t have a hole in it. I am guessing $900. I don’t know about driving around with a hole in the converter leaking exhaust. Maybe the valve thing seals it up enough. If I had a criticism, it would be mechanics making a few hundred from a part.
     
  19. Mendel Leisk

    Mendel Leisk Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2010
    55,393
    38,635
    80
    Location:
    Greater Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    Touring
    Not too far off. I'm looking at $1424.67 (CDN), plus $144.60 for shipping. All-in price in USD works out to $1,145.57

    Exhaust pipe for Toyota Prius XW50, 4 generation 09.2015 - 11.2018 - Toyota Car and Auto Spare Parts - Genuine Online Car Parts Catalogue - Amayama
    Buy Genuine Toyota 1741037B60 (17410-37B60) Pipe Assy, Exhaust, Front. Prices, fast shipping, photos, weight - Amayama

    upload_2024-4-18_9-10-59.png

    Of interest too: Amayama claims to have stock. There's two part number options, not sure why. Same price.

    $862.02 USD here:

    EXHAUST PIPE / toyota | part list|JP-CarParts.com
     
    #79 Mendel Leisk, Apr 18, 2024
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2024
  20. Tony1988

    Tony1988 New Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2024
    21
    0
    0
    Location:
    Sweden
    Vehicle:
    2017 Prius PHV
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Is this problem on Toyota Prius G4 2016-2022 Plug-In hybrid to?