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2023 Prius Prime - official prices paid thread

Discussion in 'Gen 5 Prius Main Forum' started by Marine Ray, Nov 27, 2022.

  1. Hammersmith

    Hammersmith Senior Member

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    You can, but it's an insane amount of money. Last time I checked, the MSRP for the 12.3" screen was over $10k. (You'd be buying the whole infotainment computer.) It's possible you could get one later out of a wrecked gen5, but who knows how much it would cost.
     
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    Nvm then..... I'll just get it now.
     
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    For the XLE, Toyota is mostly bundling the digital key, roof, and big screen or you get none of that. They might as well rename it the XLE and the XLE+ at this point. I will say this white car has a ton of port installed stuff, more than most I've seen.
     
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    Inventory is booming? I don't see that here in the Chicago area. I'm watching the Toyota Inventory website, and it does show several 2024 Prius and Prius Prime, but then you look at the fine print under each car, and it says "in build phase" or "may be in transit". And the closest dealerships don't have any, I'd have to drive a distance for the possibility of seeing one in person.

    But yeah, gas prices are falling, so hopefully 2024 will eventually give us some deals...

    As for break-even, I've heard that argument before. Why do people expect a feature like a hybrid to break even, when they don't expect that when paying big dollars for AWD, bigger engine, sunroof, etc. Hybrids and plug-in hybrids add to resale value, just like other features, no matter what you should expect to lose money on the car as a whole. Losing less on gas is a good thing. (Besides the whole saving-the-planet thing).
    In any case, I keep a car for 8 years on average so the question is moot for me.
     
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    i've read on other sites that different makes and models are starting to accumulate in different geographic areas, and msrp is starting to crash.
    in new england however, the only thing i can find is trucks and large suv's. still no prius
     
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    i was at the Boerne dealership and looking at the 2024 Prius Limited that was listed for $39,XXX on the website but at the dealership
    they have the sticker at $51,XXX that included all the dealer add-ons.
    Is this a normal practice for the Prius since they are in short supply???
     
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    Varies dealer by dealer. Search for a dealer that sells at MSRP or less and doesn't put on stupid amounts of extras. Be willing to drive a few hundred miles or even fly to pick it up(have a signed agreement with the final price spelled out before you leave).

    I got my loaded 2023 AWD Limited this spring for the MSRP of $39,608(ordered early April, picked up early June). I had to travel about 200 miles, but I got exactly what I wanted for the price I wanted. The only options were the ones I wanted(carpet mat package, mud guards, rear bumper applique).
     
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    Totally agree here. My last three dealer purchases were long distance (fly in drive home). Well worth it.
    My 2024 Prime SE was MSRP with Oregon “taxes” and doc fees — OTD $34,500. It was on the boat when I purchased mid Dec.; surprisingly without a buyer. I bought the car just as I wanted. Had a fantastic 600 mi. drive down the coast and through the redwoods from Portland to Santa Rosa.
     
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    The "taxes" will be paid when the car is registered in CA, currently 7.5%.
     
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    Probably like many states Oregon adds several government fees for out of state purchasers. IIRC about $200-$300. I then paid $3500 in CA for tax and registration. Everybody wants their cut.
     
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    A bit of a late reply, didn't see this, but not quite. Lease initiation fee was <$700, so it was still very worth it. No sales tax also makes it very doable -- there are some states where this isn't the case. There's no pre-payment penalty for TFS leases other than the lease initiation fee. In the case of the NFCU loan, interest rate is still 4.99% for refinance for 60 mths (even currently) and is based on amount of miles/car model year and not on ownership, and they already paid their $200 bonus for refinancing with them ;) The $4,500 lease cash is done as a capitalized cost reduction, so it does directly lower the buyout price. There is an additional re-titling fee post-refinancing, but in my case that was $50, so also fairly low.

    The other caution is that yes, one have to be careful with how insurance treats the car as well being essentially from a second owner, but in my case that didn't make a difference either. There are other concerns that can indeed be bad in this situation between the time that the car is still leased and not refinanced, including a possibility of an accident/total loss, but already past that stage :) You could probably also factor that the resale price would be lower since it's now titled as 'used', but not overly worried.
     
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    I do not have a prime, but my XLE was configured to 35ish MSRP, the dealer only gave me 1k markup. In total, out the door, i paid around 39.
     
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    I just reserved a 2024 Prius Prime SE in supersonic red. Total out the door pricing ended up being $38,100. There’s about $1,000 in add one, mostly installed of the port installed option (POI; mud guards, body side molding, all weather matt package, door edge guard).
     
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    Did you see the other thread with pictures of the body side molding? I'm not a fan of it, and would push to make sure it wasn't added, but that's a personal choice.
     
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    No, I didn’t. Can you provide a link? I used the search forum feature for “body side molding”, but only came up with a single hit (w/ no pics) in the 5th gen forums.
     
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    Was informed today that our Prime arrives next week.

    Originally when we ordered it in December 2022 it was a 2 year wait expected. But it's come in much sooner.

    2 months ago when I called they said 6 months probably.

    I guess they're making them just fine and more people are probably not taking orders since financing rates are a lot higher than most have been used to for a while.

    Gonna see if the dealer has the Michelin winter tires in stock when they call us to sort out the details.

    I've also seen recently actual gen 5 Prius on the road in my city the last two months. Before that, I didn't see any. So stock is finally reaching Ottawa Canada.
     
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    Yeah, it took me a little bit to find it again too. They spelled it "moulding" for the most part.
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    Dealers will do this for whatever car they can even if the car is not in short supply. This was the case for me 6 years ago when I went to go see a Civic hatchback that was listed well below MSRP online but was loaded with dealer-installed accessories (like a giant Type-R-like wing) that I didn't want when I went to check it out. I just walked out.

    I picked up my Prime XSE for MSRP and a $499 doc fee a couple of weeks ago after putting down a deposit back in May. The only add-ons were the winter mats and trunk liner ($299), which I specifically asked for. In fact, the dealer asked, "You don't want any add-ons, right?" They weren't trying to upsell at all, and they're known to not go over MSRP, which is why I went there.

    I can't say this with any certainty, but my suspicion is that if a dealer is known to not charge markups, they're probably less likely to have dealer-installed add-ons. You might want to look at markups.org, which helped me in my search.
     
  19. Peter3232

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    What I don’t particularly understand are the port installed options (PIO). I’ve heard many dealers claim that these are installed prior to arrival at the dealership (ie, at the port), but this never made sense to me for several reasons (eg, surely the operator of the port has better uses of time/space than to let door edge guards get installed on a car).
     
  20. Hammersmith

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    No, they really are installed at the port. Do a Google Map satellite view of the Toyota Logistics Services facility in Long Beach, CA for an example. It's a gargantuan set of parking lots where vehicles are processed in stages after they come off the ship. Something on the order of 150 acres of parking, which is a little deceptive as the cars are parked far more densely than a normal parking lot. There are also several buildings around the facility that are used as warehouses for the PIO parts and as processing facilities for the cars(inspections, lifts, paint booths, etc.).

    That being said, the dealer does have the authority to add and remove port installed options right up until the car begins processing at the port. If I had to guess(I have no knowledge of internal Toyota policies), I'd say dealers have a template with Toyota for what options automatically get added to a vehicle when it gets to the port. Some dealers only add what they think is best for their region(ex. mud guards for a dealership in a rural area), while other dealers check every box to boost their profits.

    In my particular case, I reserved my car the day after it had been allocated to the dealer(it was probably still on the assembly line in Japan at that point), so I had a couple weeks to alter port options. I had the dealer remove a couple(door edge guards & side moldings) and I swapped the floor liners for floor mats. Others on here have said that their dealers refused to make any changes while their vehicles were in ocean transit(or at least claimed they couldn't).