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2010 w/ 140k, never done any maintenance outside oil changes, where do I begin

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by wheelsup, Feb 14, 2024.

  1. wheelsup

    wheelsup Junior Member

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    I've (embarrassingly) owned my 2010 for 13 years and have only done oil changes, tire changes, and put gas in it. I did DIY transmission fluid change @ 50k IIRC, and Toyota replaced the inverter around 75k miles due to failure.

    No trouble codes right now.

    I'd like to get the car back up to snuff, and have heard about EGR problems etc. Where should I begin? What resources available to common issues like the EGR that need replacing?

    I would most likely be doing the items myself. I like to use quality but non-OEM parts if it makes sense $ wise.
    • I'll need new spark plugs
    • Brakes all four corners (rotors & pads)
    • EGR? I've heard a little about this but not sure
    • Transmission fluid change
    • Suspension and new steering gear (what is recommended? Control arms, sway bars, end links, struts, strut mounts...?)
    • Possible traction battery replacement with lithium
    I'd like to put some money into this car so it runs another 5-10 years, we only put about 5k a year on it so mileage isn't a big deal.

    What are the best sites to purchase parts from? With my Volvo for example FCP Euro is great, and I buy almost exclusively thru them. Good prices, they have OEM and OEM alternative (but quality) parts.
     
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    Well I think a list has been floating around on services needed at around 150k. I'll list a few and people that read this can always add to it.

    1. spark plugs
    2. pcv valve
    3. change all fluids
    4. air filter/cabin filter
    5. clean egr circuit/intake manifold
    6. change strut/shocks, check all suspension parts
    7. Check brakes/rotors (you may or may not need this replaced)

    If you have extra money, you would start saving up for a HV battery and Brake Booster pump. Those are failure that come after 10 years but you don't have to change them until they actually fail.
     
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    Hey you haven't fixed anything and nothing's broken If brake pads are worn out replaced them just like tires the consumables no problem You're not going to stop the engine design issues that exist in this system so anytime moving forward things can start happening to the engine that will be more costly than they're worth performing on this particular model 2010 on up 2ZZ engine cars. Are not something you really want to become attached to they're kind of disposable so don't do A lot of personalizing and so on because generally you're going to be out of the car almost as fast as you got in it a good one of these vehicles might make $240,000 It's kind of rare but it does happen and some do go over but generally they don't.
     
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    Where in the USA are you, Alaska, Florida, Hawaii, Wisconsin? Rotors may be fine. Pads yeah, likely due. It’s good to get the calipers off every three years or 30k miles, clean and lube.
    See first couple of links in my signature; on a phone turn it landscape to see signature. My 2 cents: 100k is the latest you want to leave initial EGR cleaning (including intake manifold). Get on it ASAP.
     
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    I'm in SE USA. I like to do rotors at same time on my cars because they tend to be inexpensive. Although you are probably correct, I'm sure they are fine. I'll take the wheels off and run my fingers of them to see if there is any scoring. We've had no pulsing on braking.

    I am concerned about the EGR. Thanks for the links. There are so many out there it's overwhelming. Do you recommend buying a new part and installing it or cleaning out the original? I'm not particularly money conscious (more time) but I'm sure they are a pretty penny.
     
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    PCV is a good suggestion, and I hadn't thought to look up 150k mile issues since that's a nice round number. Thanks for the list!

    I do read a lot about HG issues on here and that is the big one that concerns me. I'd hate to drop $3,500 into the car and have the HG go.
     
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    At 140K miles, just cleaning everything should be eminently doable. Read the links, second one in particular, for cleaning tips, partial coolant drain (if you're not changing coolant.

    The EGR cooler (our colloquial name for the first component in the EGR circuit) is the difficult one to clean. Everything else can be addressed with brake cleaner, brushes and rags. For the cooler:

    1. Remove it's lower bracket nut (#1) off it's stud, anytime you've got a few hours free. Nothing else needs to come off to get to it. And you can leave this nut off, permanently; everything holds together fine. Reason to do this in advance: it's a royal pain to access, best to get out of the way. I'd recommend to remove the stud at that location as well, because it's useless without the nut, and with it gone it is easier to pull the cooler out, and you don't need to remove the rearmost studs (#3).

    2. I would also remove the similar nut (#2), and stud, from the front EGR valve. Put a little anti-seize on the stud, and reinstall stud and nut. That one is relatively easy access, but just as prep. There's also a bolt (#4) securing the cooler at the top, back out, lube and reinstall that one as well. Torque values for all of these are in the EGR specific pdf, linked in top link in my signature.

    3. When doing the EGR cleaning for real: make removal of the EGR cooler priority. Once you've got it out, get one end corked, fill with a hot tap water solution with carbon busting ingredients, propped up in a bucket or corner of a laundry sink. My recommendation would be a concentrated solution of powdered Oxi-Clean Versatile Stain Remover. Others will recommend oven cleaner. If you're going that route, I'd say use lye cristals (readily available on amazon), and use extreme caution, it's very caustic. Anyway, with the Oxi solution, let it sit about an hour (while dealing with other EGR components, and/or the intake manifold), then rinse and refill with fresh solution. Repeating this about 5 times, it should come out like new.

    Note, do not use caustic chemicals (including Oxi-Clean) on anything other than the cooler, which is stainless steel. For everything else, brake cleaner and elbow grease is sufficient.

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