THE TRUCK!

• Increase software limited, usable gasoline from 1.9 to 2.3 gallons.
• Enable manual start of Range Extender when battery is 75% or lower.
• Remap a remote control button to lower windows.

Bob Wilson

 

Lots of cars have lots of settings for preferences and those who read manuals or forums ahead of time come with a list of settings. I think mine was about 20 items long. I generally have the dealer set them based on an email to the salesperson when agreeing on the pickup date and time and final price. Here are the settings I'd like as part of pre-delivery so I'm ready to drive off the lot..

 

Wow 9 pages of info......reminds me of a sex ed pamphlet from the 80's.. lick everything and spit out what you don't want.

 

Wait lists can be a HUGE indicator for strong demand. For instance the model Y had a big wait list & now it has surpassed the old #1 sales champ car - the Corolla. Something to be said for the top down production philosophy. The automotive laggards are so afraid of the "all electric" potential - that when the EV market *only* increases at 20% instead of 40%, they try to spin it as electric car failure.
Be very afraid

Meanwhile they are putting some pretty wild wraps on the stainless cyber Truck Body.



Holy "look at meeee"
LOL

 

Curious about the claim of number of number of Model Y's vs Corolla's sold-

The Complete History of the Toyota Corolla - Garage Dreams

"Today, well over 40 million Corollas have been sold and the nameplate is still regarded as one of the best in the business. "

Is the poster implying over 40 million Model Y's have been sold?

This Is Why The Toyota Corolla Is The World's Best-Selling Car Of All Time (hotcars.com)
"So, in a market where we have cutting-edge companies like Tesla, hypercar manufacturers like Zenvo, and established global players like Volkswagen Group, which is the world’s best-selling automobile?
The answer, surprisingly, is the Toyota Corolla. The Japanese subcompact car has dominated the world for decades"

 

All time, not 2023, if I’m not mistaken.

I don’t think anyone is claiming what Toyota has done or is doing isn’t great in terms of quality and sales.
It’s a discussion of the future, and everything is fair game.

 

This is the cyber truck thread btw, for better or worse

 

Just putting in a perspective/reality check for the individual who was using the Corolla comparison.
A one year glitch does not compare with a 50 year domination. Corolla has been continually manufactured since 1966 - it's not some flashdance johnny come lately vehicle!

"For instance the model Y had a big wait list & now it has surpassed the old #1 sales champ car - the Corolla." post164

 

A common way to boost sales numbers is selling to rental fleets.

 

It’s only a glitch if it doesn’t last.
That remains to be seen.
Doesn’t take anything away from corrola, whatever the outcome, great vehicle

 

Latest news reports are showing the "stainless steel" Tesla trucks aren't so stainless....pics of rust after they get wet....wouldn't want the nickname Rust Bucket! (I was shocked to see that their aren't coated in the manufacturing process...how cheap is that for a "truck" that costs $62-100K??)

Some Cybertruck Owners Say Their Teslas Are Starting to Rust in the Rain

 

And no one claimed the Model Y outsold nearly sixty years of Corolla sales in one year.
Another thing to consider that the one year sales the Tesla beat counted all the Corolla variants.

 

Quality of the stainless steel used can affect corrosion susceptibility.

Whirlpool had an issue with a run of their stainless steel refrigerators that were rusting - they were stainless steel but the quality of the stainless steel was just not as good as it should have been.

There are different grades of stainless steel and cheaper grades or faulty manufactured stainless steel will show degradation.
Generally rusting is a sign of a cheap grade of stainless steel or failed manufacturing process of the stainless.

Making stainless steel, especially rolls of stainless steel that can be stamped out and formed is a compromise dance that can have disappointing results if not choreographed just right.
Why Does Stainless Steel Rust? The Complete Guide (rocheindustry.com)

 

Corolla is a great car with a long history of sales success that hasn't been equaled would have been a suitable reply.

How is it possible for Toyota to have 2 of the 3 best selling vehicles in the world for 2023 - Toyota is hopelessly out of step with automotive trends - correct?

 

No one ever said stainless doesn't rust. There are MANY stainless alloys & some are more corrosion resistant than others ... but they all are susceptible to corrosion - turning on what environment they are made for - or what tensile strength is needed - or what particular magnetic properties are sought or avoided in any particular application.

304 vs 316 Stainless Steel: What You Need to Know - Unified Alloys

Musk tends to imbibe on marketing specifics but afaik, he's never said the Cyber truck is rust proof.

alloys - to be more precise
... 304, 308L 303, 316 etc
Manufacturer's choices are based on lots of competing interests sometimes - not just cheapness. Just like a car. You can pick one that's extremely efficient, or one that can pull 14,000Lbs in 16 in of snow, or one with the least up front cost.
When choosing an alloy, you sometimes have to split the difference.
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The post bringing it up in no way denigrated the Corolla. The Model Y was simply mentioned to counter the claim that non-commitment waiting lists are a poor way to judge demand. The Model Y had a long one, and sales surpassed the Corolla in a few years. It is just a statement of how strong demand is for the Model Y that it beat the Corolla, which is well known to be the perennial sales winner to the point it didn't need to be repeated. That was why the Y's achievement was such news.

 

Typically, especially since we were talking about present demand, sales rankings means annual.
If Hill had spelled out the implied “annual” sales rankings, would you still be complaining?

I find it curious you dismiss Tesla’s accomplishment as a ‘glitch’, yet also hold up Toyota’s #2 & #3 spots as proof of greatness?

 

"I find it curious you dismiss Tesla’s accomplishment as a ‘glitch’, yet also hold up Toyota’s #2 & #3 spots as proof of greatness?" post 177

Tesla is a wonderful company - yeah Tesla!
It is also nice they are an American company - wish them well.

Tesla is also a relatively new kid on the block in automotive manufacturing.
They are beginning to experience some success after years of struggles and growing their business model.
They also are creating jobs in America for Americans and people worldwide in manufacturing allowing these individual employees gainful employment and in cases where the workers are smart enough to save their money wealth accumulation.
It is a great example of how Capitalism works and raises the standard of living for employees and communities by production of products that meet consumer demands.

Toyota has been doing this since 1930 - 1936 if we only include auto production.

Putting things in perspective is always a good thing- it helps people form good well balanced thoughts and expectations.
Showing the historical perspective of the Toyota Corolla exceeding 50 million in sales over its historic current production should help people maintain a grip on reality when evaluating a company's recent success by using comparative analysis.

And bringing up the historical perspective of the Toyota Corolla is also a good thing - correct? Doesn't it show the long lasting and consistent success of the product and lend depth to comparisons?
Glitch - referring to EV sales are currently falling from a current perspective as people work through the new technology to see if they really desire it
Glitch- one time appearance-a sudden, usually temporary or irregularity appearance- not dismissive -descriptive.

Is perspective/comparative analysis and its pertinence only a function of who brings it up in your mind?
(Already know the answer)

 

This is a long thread about the Cybertruck. A historical perspective on the Corolla is ranging far outside that scope. Its impact is already well known, which is why the Model Y having outsold last year was brought up. Because that is more impactful than simply saying the Model Y was number 1 in sales globally, though @hill might be wishing he posted that now.

 

i repent !