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Car Shut Off / No Start - CEL Codes UO293 / B2799

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  1. PriuSocal

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    2008 Prius, 252k with no prior mechanical issues or CEL’s. No aftermarket bulbs or sound system. Only thing I have is a OwlCam that is always plugged to the OBD2 port and a USB-C cigarette lighter conversion (both on car for about a year).

    Today it abruptly shut off on me while stop/go at a stop sign. The car just died and nothing on the dashboard. I started to smell a burnt wiring smell coming from the car as well. I thought it was my 12v battery but a quick check and it was fine, Hybrid battery looked ok and have not been having any issues with it and charges fine. So I attempted to start it up and nothing, I would press the Start button but nothing happen. I went on to check the fuse box under the hood and found the AM2 fuse blown and all other fuses were ok. I also checked the wiring for frying or damage and it seemed all ok BUT the burnt smell appeared to be coming from inside the inverter motor. cover. I swapped out the AM2 fuse and it blew it again, swapped out another one and this time it didn’t and the car started up again. Decided to get it towed and will check it on my day off tomorrow but wanted some ideas as to what to look into as my “Electrical Skills” are almost non-existant. The CEL was also no on and got the UO293 and B2799 codes. I cleared them just in case.

    2 notable things id like to mention just in case is that twice in the last 6 months, the combo meter display has gone blank but after some research suggesting to disconnect/connect the 12v battery and display has come back on, I have left it alone. 2nd, the red light on the key fob has started to blink and will no longer work from over 20 feet away (perhaps a dying 2032 battery).

    Below is what my Blue Driver scanner showed:
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    A bad inverter cooling pump will blow the AM2 fuse. A lot of information on this issue in this forum if you do a search.
     
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    I did look it up but wanted to get more insight as some say you would get a p0A93 codes when its a bad inverter pump and I am getting the UO293 code. Also, some say it can be the combo meter causing the issue, odd noise from the inverter (which mine doesn't have) and others even said a bad HV battery so the references are all over the place and was hoping someone would have had an issue closer to mine.

    Also, B2799 code anyone experience that?

    Suggestions welcome.
     
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    Go out use a long pair of needle nose pliers and unplug the plug from the pancake inverter cooling pump right behind and below the left headlight now replace the AM2 fuse and start the car get out of the car and look at the AM2 fuse again You see it's not blown because the inverter pump is not plugged in indicating that the inverter pump is drawing high current not moving water so on and so forth so it sucks the fuse dry and it blows or however you want to look at it now you see it's not blown because the motor's unplugged You can drive the car at this time of the year most places around the country unless you're somewhere where it's quite warm above 75 then you'll notice maybe you'll have no air conditioning things like that but the car will run fine more than likely you need an inverter pump by the Toyota model so you're not doing this again before a year goes by The difference in the cost from the cheap pump and the real one is about $94 spend it Don't be that guy I guess or you'll be back here with the same scenario again very quickly that's the general consensus I don't know what your owl cam is or any of that nonsense. It pretty much has nothing to do with anything Prius this is a standard problem it'll be over in a few minutes.
     
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    You may have missed that the AM2 fuse blew once after replacing it and not the second time it was installed. Would it need to continuously blow every time replaced if its the inverter pump for sure? The AM2 fuse is fine now and car starts and works fine but I do get a weird smell coming from inside the inverter (like a burnt plastic-ish smell).

    Now, as far as oem vs aftermarket I can agree that OEM is the way to go, but are those aftermarket ones any good as a temp solution? I guess I would want to make sure it was the pump before shelling out $150+ on an original one. Aisin appears to be the OEM spec part but I see others like DORMAN, GATES, SKP etc… Any of them worth buying to test out and ensure its the issue?

    Finally, when the car is on, MUST there be a visible coolant flow at all times at the reservoir to indicate the pump is working?I checked mine and the coolant is stagnant at FULL level with no movement. Perhaps this is the key to knowing if its a bad pump or not.
     
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    UPDATE:

    I removed the pump and determined the burnt smell was coming from inside the pump itself, is this normal or indicate a definite failed part. I shaked the pump around after removal and sounds like something is loose inside, is it suppose to do that or not?

    By the smell of it, it may indicate a possible shorted part and this way I would def purchase an OEM one as no need to test if the above indicates a failed pump.

    Also, should the coolant be flushed and re filled due to this possible contamination of the fluid or would it not matter and simply refilled/burped once I replace the part?

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    Yes I was going to say the smell you're getting is from the pump internally it's fubar the shaking is normal your new one will do that from the Toyota dealer and if it was left in place and plugged up it would probably eventually blow the AM2 fuse again which is why I generally just unplug it especially after I start smelling that smell an electric ozone smell lightly burning circuit board nonsense or something smoked. So if it's cool where you are you can drive around no problem won't even know it when it gets warmer and the fluid gets warm enough it will throttle back charging not let you have air conditioning so on and so forth.
     
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    "electric ozone smell lightly burning circuit board” This is the BEST description of the smell anyone could have come up with. It should be in the dictionary when attempting to describe such smell LOL!!! You sir, get kudos for that jajajaaa!!

    But yes, that along with a stagnant reservoir fluid indicate it to be the culprit. A buddy of mine has a tested and good one hes gonna give me for $50 so Ill probably do that as I called my local Toyota dealer and they want $190! Yikes
     
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    Has the coolant been replaced in the last 50k miles? If not, replace the coolant.
     
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    You can buy that part online for about 163 or something like that and then pick it up at the store That's what you should be doing with Toyota parts Don't walk into the parts counter and ask the person to look it up and what it costs go online and look it up and get the discount and then it'll show you what you would have paid for it at the store by walking in and you see what you save
     
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    Not that I know of, I have only put 30k since I bought it. Do you know what the capacity is? I have about 3/4 left from a Toyota pink fluid gallon wondering if thats enough to flush and fill.
     
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    Got the one off my buddy and its OEM. Ill install that and keep an eye out for one but at least my car should be mobile again. BTW, i was getting that $191 price at Envision and $212 at Penske Toyota so went to RockAuto and found the OEM Aisin p/n WQT-800 for $111 after taxes and shipping so will be ordering from them in a few weeks.

    Will post results after I instal this and hope all goes well.
     
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    If you got an OEM from your buddy and you're going to install that, why are you buying another pump from RockAuto?

    Just go with the first (OEM) one and be done with it.
     
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    figured its good to carry it in the car in the event this ever goes bad. But yes, used one is going into the car tomorrow
     
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    Usually the Toyota one is going to go the 10 12 years again etc It seems the cheap ones they are able to figure out how to make them cheap enough so that you're buying a new one every 90 or 180 days or something I don't know why manufacturers waste time with these antics Just build the part semi correctly if it fails a few months difference from the dealer part oh well so be it but 8 years is certainly a stretch.
     
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    No i do not. The inverter coolant capacity should be in the owners manual.
     
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    It's not very much It's that reservoir the pump the hoses and the little short section of the radiator and the very top under your core support if it was to hold a quart and a half I might even be shocked maybe a tad more You don't even really need coolant in the inverter coolant jug water just about any liquid will do you'd like it not to freeze if you get that kind of temperatures in the winter but other than that there's no reason for it to be glycol coolant it's under no pressure It has nothing to do with internal combustion engine It is just cooling the bottom of the inverter so any liquid that can run through there and run through The system without corroding eating it up or causing any other damage will be fine water comes to mind but of course if you live in a place where it's going to get cold and freeze water will do just that but other than that I don't think there's any reason necessarily for Asian red coolant I mean it makes sense you're already putting it in the radiator so what the heck But other than that not so much anything will work just depends on what your weather conditions are whether it will freeze and break something.
     
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    Water can be very corrosive, depending on where you live. Coolant is more than antifreeze and it's the anti-corrosive part of the formula that is more important.

    There have been more than a few reports of people doing something with the inverter coolant that creates a foam-like substance that blocks up the whole shebang.
     
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    So, I installed the supposed good (tested) pump, connected electrical plug, topped off fluid and installed hose from bleeder valve to reservoir in case any air got inside and nothing happen when I put the car in AUX mode or when I started the car. There is no flow in the reservoir it's just stagnant fluid as well as no noise coming from the pump itself nor any fluid flow in the hoses. Could this have been a bad pump after all or something else? I am ready to just order the new Aisin pump but want to ensure I am not missing something which I doubt.

    I checked the AM2 fuse and its fine. Is there any other fuses I should check or ??
     
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    No it should be running You should be able to feel it If not hear it It is pretty subtle and usually you don't have to do any cracking of that hose You just squeeze the one or two hoses coming out of the pump itself is reach down there squeeze it like you're milking the cow and usually boom that's it You will barely see anything moving in the reservoir You just see ripples and you should have your hand on the pump and you feel the pump running You see the little ripples that's it You don't even feel the pump running well you've got a problem It's the AM2 fuses good you should have 12 volts at the plug that you're unplugging to change the pump the pumps power supply if you will.