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Featured 2025 Camry HEV debuts, priced lower than the previous generation and only $450 higher than the Prius

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  1. Gokhan

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    2025 Camry LE fuel economy is 53/50/51 mpg (city/highway/combined)—similar to that of Prius XLE/Limited.

    It is priced at $28,400—only $450 higher than Prius LE.

    2025 Toyota Camry | Toyota.com
     
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    Toyota is knocking the ball out of the park.
    That price for that iconic car is an incredible bargain for the cost sensitive consumer.
    No wonder they are breaking all volume and sales records currently!

    "53/50/51 mpg (city/highway/combined)"- those figures are mind blowing.

    Hard for someone to whine about unaffordable cars with such a value packed option on the market

    How The 2025 Toyota Camry Could Shake Up The Affordable Sedan Market (msn.com)
     
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    Most amazingly, it's the same Toyota that was almost kicked off Earth for dragging their feet on BEVs.

    Looks like they did a good car, I look forward to trying one. I like how they finally got the hybrid battery fully under the back seat like in our c.
     
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    As icing on the cake the Camry is US Manufactured - not an import- made and assembled by US workers!

    Where Are Toyota Camrys Made? (Solved & Explained!) | Motor & Wheels (motorandwheels.com)

    "Are Toyota Camrys For The U.S. Market Produced In The U.S.?
    Yes, they are. In 2012, the Toyota U.S. market ceased to import Camrys from the Tsutsumi factory in Japan and began producing all the cars it sold locally.

    The only exception, in this case, was a brief import of Camrys from Japan to the U.S.A. in 2018.

    This was because Toyota U.S.A. took longer than usual to complete the design of its version of the 2018 Camry.

    Are They Being Assembled In The U.S.?
    Yes, Toyota Camrys are being assembled in the U.S. Toyota Camrys manufactured in the U.S.A. are assembled at the Georgetown Toyota factory in the U.S.A.

    In fact, reports from the National Highway and Transportation Safety Administration show that 75% of the Camry’s parts are produced in the U.S.A.

    Toyota Camry is still the most American-made non-electric car in 2023. "
     
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    The big news was already known; going hybrid only. The improvements are in line with what was seen in the gen5 Prius. Boost in performance with little to no change fuel economy. The Camry paid for the old engine to new dynamic force one in the last generation. The Prius price is reflecting a bigger change to its drive train. I suspect they are giving up some profit this year with the move to hybrid only. Like how the initial Rav4 hybrid pricing went.

    Another interesting point. It got bigger. No interior figures posted, but the exterior is approaching the Accord. If it reaches large size, then it will be bigger than the Avalon and Crown US sedan.

    There is some decontenting from the outgoing hybrid. SKS is an option on the LE and no heated seats for the base trim. The 16" wheels on the LE are now alloy, at least it won't look cheap in comparison.

    Toyota likely expects to make up the price reduction in AWD sales. They are actually charging a little more than they did for the mechanical system in the ICE.Guess they'll do the same as the Prius in shipping AWD only to some markets.
     
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    I noticed this too. Absolutely loving it.

    If a Bad Thing happened to our Mazda 6, the 2025 Camry LE with "Boulder" interior would be the top of my list.

    Now we gotta work on the dealers to keep them from only ordering them in "Moist Pothole Metallic."
     
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    Yeah that might be us (or we get an LE FWD but the remainder in AWD only). Here, the Prius is only offered with AWD and only in XLE and LTD trims, no LE for us.

    Hmm, 16" is a size smaller than before, right? That's ok given the trend of upsizing wheel sizes.
     
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    US 2024 LE also had 16" wheels.
     
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    So now the market is used to $30,0000 as low, but I’m not. Plus fees, tax, and license, $34,000.
     
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    It is $28,000. New cars have never been cheap. The cost of living has doubled in the last 30 years. You can get a Corolla if you want something cheaper. They don't sell the Tercel anymore, do they? There is no more the hypereconomical Chevrolet Chevette, @bwilson4web's favorite car of all time. :)
     
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    The current LE has 16" steel wheels from the ICE L model. I felt it was a cheap maneuver for the segment, but it got the EPA over 50mpg.
     
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    looks interesting. we dropped our '24 off at the dealer today to repair a leaking windshield.

    they gave me a base rav4. not a bad car, but not even close to the camry. it did return 45mpg on the screen for the 20 mile return drive though.
     
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    Ok, not 30, but I built one with nothing on it, and it came to $29,495. Plus fees, taxes, and license.
    Article about woman who bought the first Mustang sold in USA, a convertible with some options for $3400. In 1985 my Camry hatchback was $11000 something plus fees tax license.
    If you bought a house in calif 30 years ago its paid off and you get prop 13 property taxes. You don't need much money to live now. Don’t complain the price of tv dinners is too much. 40 years ago is better. But then you are old.
     
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    Adjust for inflation, and your Camry and that Mustang were both over $30k.

    In practice that means less stops at a gas station for daily use. While a BEV means never having to visit a gas station ever again.
     
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    Weird.

    What do Bev's run on? Do they make pit stops at the local Coal Fired Utility?

    Brutal Chicago Cold ICEs Teslas And Other EVs Stranding Drivers | Carscoops

    opps, nevermind.
     
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    I remember buying the first model year camry hybrid in 2006. It delivered 40MPG and treated us well for 10 years and 200k miles. One of the reasons we went with Priuses after that was the much better gas mileage. Glad to see they're closing that gap. If they added a PHEV version to sit between the Prius Prime and RAV4 Prime I'd be all over that.
     
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    A Plug in Camry would make an outstanding model even better - if that's possible.

    A Plug in Corolla would be a knock out too.

    Between the Camry, Corolla and Prius all averaging over 50 mpg it would be hard to go wrong picking an efficient vehicle.

    Three great vehicles - three world class mpg performers - all priced for the average consumer!
     
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    Note the "daily use." The majority aren't driving hundreds of miles in a day. New Prius owners in the past here didn't talk about the distance they went on a tank, but about how they could go more days between having to stop at the gas station. The Prime owners are talking about it now.

    Most people getting a BEV can charge at home. Would you have bought a PHEV if you couldn't have done so? How much longer between visits to the station does the Niro go than the Prius did?

    I drive five to six thousand miles each year that would require refueling along the way. The other 13,000 miles of driving I do a year can be covered by a BEV charged at home. That would mean not having to take time to stop at a gas station 25 to 50 times a year. And I have seen 700 miles on my Outback's DTE gauge, yet have never driven over 300 miles in a single session.
     
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