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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Joki, Mar 26, 2024.

  1. Joki

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    Hello,
    After cleaning the injectors, when pressing the accelerator in parking the rpm jumps to about 2700 and drops to 2400 in a loop. Before it was stable on 2500 rpm. Have any one knows what can cause it. I read it could be the MAF sensor also i tried to disconnect the battery for 10 minutes.
    It didn't work.
     
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    Clean MAF.
     
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    Ordinarily I'd help you with this... But seeing as you're from Israel, you're on your own because of the horrific awful your country is doing right now. I won't ever do anything to support Israel or its people ever again. I love Jewish people and their history too much to do otherwise.
     
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    Those injectors are in my 2009 prius not in a F-16.
    But seriously, in my opinion helping people is above country and political views but it's your choice when and who to help.

    Anyway It's easy to judge from your position you're probably seeing only part of the picture. my suggestion for you is to get information about the war happning now from few sources of media and to build a picture of what happend on oct 7 (google reim music festival massacre) and to be honest with yourself about how your country would react or reacted in the past when it was attacked.
     
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    Been studying all sides and perspectives of the atrocities of Israel since I was a teenager more than 40 years ago. Clearly you have not! You are are wrong by every measure. The nation of Israel is not just an abomination of human rights, but a dishonor and disgrace of the beauty and love of the Jewish religion.

    I'm now going to click ignore on your profile so I never again see your words or questions, which is also what the whole world is uniting to do to Israel in general. Nations that massacre and starve millions of women & children who are trapped in death camps will be treated the same way the Nazi Germany was treated. It's just a matter of time! We will never forget what was started to in 1948 to genocide the nation of Palestine, which will one day be free from the river to the sea!
     
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    Look at you, man. You are wishing death for people you don't know and talking about human rights. You are full of hate for any Jew who lives in Israel, and you're pretending you're loving Jewish people and their religion.
    I'm living here, studying and working with Arab Muslims, and I'm never wishing death on people I don't know. I'm against killing innocent people from all around the world, including Palestinians. But I definitely stand against antisemitic people and emenies who want to kill Jews, educate for killing Jews, and try every day to kill my friends and family and wish us death. You live in the US; you don't live the real life here; you are not surrounded by enemies; your friends and family are not being kept by terror organizations. You are safe, so for you, it's easy to speak. No matter how much you think you learned, you are not living the real life here.

    If you will see these worlds or not,
    Even though I don't agree with you, I'm wishing you the best. I hope you will always be loved, safe, and free.
     
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    yeah, it's hard to find truth if you don't live it. why do people believe certain news sources and not others? how do they decide? probably preconceived notions, and believe the sources that agree with them.
    all the best with your car and your safety.
     
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    During World War II the whole world was in denial of what Germany was doing... There were even Nazi rallies in the US, as it was a fledgling political party. Also the US government refused entry of Jewish refugees from Eastern Europe for the very same dishonest xenophobic reasons we refuse immigrants at the border today.

    Then when Germany was finally defeated and we saw the extent of starvation in the concentration camps, we reallized that millions had been burned in ovens or buried in unmarked graves, the whole world's view of what really happened changed entirely. Israel is currently heading down the exact same road. Speaking out can help save many, many lives!
     
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    attacking people you don't know never helps anything
     
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    but it's easier than attacking people you know
     
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    Are you off your meds again?
     
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    I've been closely studying and associating with all sides of the issue, especially the people of Palestine for decades... I've intensively studied how beautiful the holy land was prior to 1948 when Jews, Christians, Muslims lived in the small cities and towns in peace! They are now trying to erase every mosque (over 1K destroyed) every historical record, every learning facility, every hospital, everything that's needed for their survival is being destroyed as if "having a right to defend themselves" means systemically wiping out entire family trees as is constantly being reported. More than 2 million people who ended up in Gaza after being forced off their land since 1948 are now trapped in a place that Israel is trying to make uninhabitable through horiffic war crimes that are being documented and will one day have their day in court and sentencing of leaders and soldiers to life in prison in the Hague. We're already about to hit 33,000 deaths of mostly women and children and millions are on the brink of the biggest famine and outbreak of disease since WWII. I've been upset every day about these atrocities since Oct. 7th. We need kindness and compassion and peace treaties to solve these problems, not torture, starvation and mass murder, which only perpetuates future cycles of violence on both sides.
     
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    So go there and help....you'll quickly find kindness and compassion will get you dead.
    Other than studying and reading, have you physically ever gone to the middle east or spent any time there?
    Have you spent any time in Israel?
    You make it plainly clear that you won't help someone, merely because they're in Israel? Although I was only there for a couple weeks, I never felt like anyone wanted to chop my head off. I did think it was a bit sad that they needed to have an armed soldier at what seemed like every street corner. I wonder why that is? Some of the other countries in the area that I visited? Felt like head chop danger could be around any corner.
    Are there Prius Chatters who live in certain states in the US you prefer to not to help because of things their state Govs decided to do?

    Here's a list of currently ongoing worldwide conflicts to help you decide who to help and not help, once you decide which side you're on.
    List of ongoing armed conflicts - Wikipedia
     
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    I supported my friend in my local town in the US in her multiple trips to support defending the basic human rights/decency in Rafah: Rachel Corrie - Wikipedia

    Because she was a US citizen she had more rights than those who lived in Rafah and she spoke out for them. She told people all over the world of how scared the kids were every night with all the bombings and how they welcomed her into their home despite that.

    And yes you're entirely correct that from the perspective of Israel "kindness and compassion will get you dead" because she was buried under a bulldozer and was DOA at the local hospital after the family who's home she was defending by standing with a megaphone in front of the bulldozer to prevent it from moving forward. The family of the home she failed to protect soon after dug her out from under the dozer blade. But that was back when Gaza was still allowed to have hospitals and Israel was only clearing security zones, not the entire landscpape

    And to be clear, recognizing the shape of your friend's legs on the front page of your local newspaper before you read what happened, is a horror no one who cares about anyone should have to endure. She was such a beautiful person! So much honor and integrity! Her parents spent years fighting for and losing a wrongful death claim in Israeli courts.

    At the time our town united with more than a billion Muslims all over the world honoring her work at the time of her death in 2003 just before the US invaded Iraq under the false claim of weapons of mass destruction and 150K to 1 million deaths (depending on who you ask) with resultant US oil companies posting tens of billions in quarterly profits for years to come.

    I also attended a dozen speakers panels in our town by scholars from around the world who honored her death by bringing the foremost experts from all sides of the subject who saw great value in informing and educating from the tragedy of her death. Every Thursday for months, we gathered in a synagouge in our town to better understand the future of peace in the Middle East.

    What we learned is that Britain's colonialist agenda has poisoned the mid-east in order for the US to prevent immigration to the US of most of the surviving 3 million of the original 9 million Eastern-european Jews. We also learned that Jews around the world with long-established traditions and history were expelled from all the muslims countries where they once lived in peace specifically because of Israel's ongoing atrocities.



    Point being there's 1.8 billion Muslims in the world, there's 2.4 billion Christians in the world, there's 15 million Jewish people in the world, which today would be 30 millions Jewish had it not been for what happened in WWII. As in White supremecy via Jewish proxy needs to end! We need to do everything it takes to create peace in the middle east!
     
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    It's a tough life when you spend it pissing into the wind.........some things will never change, regardless of how much you want them to.

    On another note...if someone is pissed off and says they're going to shoot me if I do a specific action, and that person is believable, I'm probably not going to do that action and dare them to shoot me.

    If someone is in a bulldozer and tells me to get tf out of the way or they're going to run me over? Well, one of two things are going to happen. Either I'm going to move, or I'm going to get run over. One of those options probably leads to a lot of regret halfway through. We all make our own decisions. Kind of like protesters that block highways. Car runs through the middle of them? I'm ok with that and would have no problem being on that jury.
     
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    Uh, back on topic, OK?

    The car behaved properly before the injectors were cleaned, or it was already having this issue? If it was not having this issue, why were the injectors cleaned? In short, if it was working fine before the work, and it wasn't working fine after the work, then you almost certainly broke something doing the work. There is an exception to that rule though: if the car has to learn a setting then it might need to be reset and relearn if the injectors now work substantially better (or worse!). You unplugged the battery which might have/probably did clear its memory. Slight possibility that the relearn time is longer than you have waited. Seems unlikely to me though, as the injectors work in a feedback loop and the computer should see within a very short time (minutes at most) how much fuel they deliver for a given signal.

    I suggest putting a good OBD2 reader on it, or Techstream with a mini-VCI, and see what the fuel trim readings are.
     
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    Toyota went to Throttle by wire (at least in the Gen 3. I'm guessing the Gen 2 is not much different).

    The throttle plate and where it meets the rest of the throttle body is a place that picks up crap that needs to be cleaned off every 80-100K miles or so. Maybe more often in different environments. Check for smooth action of the throttle plate by moving it by hand (slowly). This is where unplugging the accessory battery for a bit as the car recalibrates the idle position to compensate for the buildup. The car will eventually adjust the idle to compensate as well, but it might take a few drive cycles. (The Car Care Nut YouTube channel has a video, or section of a video on this.)

    Check for corrosion on the electrical connector/wires that go to the throttle body.
     
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    Thanks to all for your help. I appreciate those who don't care what race, color, or from where I am and are willing to help.

    I changed the injectors o-ring, and problem solved.

    For Prius camper you can tell everybody many times, you learned the history of this rigion it does not make it true, and it became clear from your claims.


    You clamed:
    Holy land was prior to 1948 when Jews, Christians, and Muslims lived in the small cities and towns in peace!

    I claiming: Before was the British mandate and Israel were established after countries all over the world voted for it (we didn't take anything). The Arabs refused to establish their country, instead, they declared war on Israel, and they lost the war.

    Today in Israel, Jews, Christians, and Muslims are living together (I have Christians and Muslim friends).

    You claimed: They are now trying to erase every mosque (over 1K destroyed) every historical record, every learning facility and every hospital.

    I'm claiming: In 2005, Israel left Gaza for the Palestinians to govern there. Army and sattlers who lived in Gaza strip were incorrigible to leave ("Israeli disengagement from Gaza" on Wiki) The result was that the terror organization Hamas took over the Gaza Strip and murdered Palestinian formal officers.

    From 2005, Hamas armed and located, on purpose, his bases and rockets in civil facilities; this is why Israel destroyed them in the last months.

    I am living 500 meters from an Arabic village, yes, in Israel (Arabic Israelis living there), and there is a mosque in that village, and no one is thinking of destroying it, as many mosques in Israel.

    The fact is that Hamas controlled the Gaza Strip and attacked Israel all the time by launching rockets, and Israel didn't do much until October 7, when Hamas invaded the villages in Israel, to families houses, and to the Nova Festival, where they murdered and kidnapped innocent people.
    If something like that were happening in the US, I don't want to imagine what your country would do to those who did it.

    For now, 133 people are still held by Hamas, including mom and her two babies (who the hell is kidneping babeis! Maybe freedom fighters? Whose ones are you protecting?).

    By the way, the ideology of those Islamic terror groups is not to free themselves and to give freedom of choice and rights to people all over the world, instead, they want to destroy western culture, which they see as sinners.

    This is a video of one of our brothers kept by Hamas in Gaza.



    I wish you to open your eyes to see reality in a more complex way than the story you're telling yourself.

    And the last thing I have to say to you.
    Never even try to compare us to Nazis!
    This is what shows you know nothing about history and have learned nothing.
    Today is the Holocaust remembrance day in Israel, where 6 million Jews were murdered.
    Those Jews weren't armed; they didn't attack the Germans in any way, they slaved to death in concentration camps. The ones that couldn't work burned in masses in huge burning rooms on a daily basis. It was a well-planned factory. factory for murdering Jews with a clear goal to annihilate the Jews.
    And guess what? It didn't work for them!

    Nothing of that is near what is happening in Gaza!

    They attacked Israel with thousands of terrorist guns and RPGs and kidnapped civilians.

    So keep learning and never compare!

    Antisemity and receisem always change their shape, but they are the same old shit.
    so now it is antishemity in the name of knowledge and using the Holocaust against the Jews.


    And sorry for all those who didn't want this forum to go political; I just couldn't ignore antisemitic worlds in the name of knowledge. Just because someone believes he knows better is giving him the right to judge people because they live in a place that he thinks he knows more about than the one who lives there.

    You are welcome to visit Israel and then judge yourself by watching reality with your own eyes and not hearing stories.

    Having said that, I still wish you the best because the Jewish people survived not through spreading hate but through living life, even after a long history of suffering.
     
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