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Prius won’t go into ready mode

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Bryan R, May 4, 2023.

  1. Bryan R

    Bryan R Junior Member

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    Hello y’all I’m new to the forum! Anyways I will attempt to be as thorough as I can about my issue because it’s a bit layered.

    I live in Florida and have a Gen 2 2006 Prius. I’ve had it since 2014 has 275k plus miles driven. For the past 7 months since I had my last repair I’ve had problems with starting my car on ready. At the time I was told by the Prius shop that replaced my battery and ECU that attempted to get to the bottom of why it’s happening they said it seems like an electrical issue.

    What would happen is that I press the brake pedal and start button and the car would sound like the AC is running with my PRNDLB indicators just flashing after a couple seconds with a sound of like my AC running, I’ll turn it off completely and restart the process and it’ll turn on and ready to drive fine. Sometimes it takes me several times to do this for my car to get to ready mode. I find also that putting it on accessory mode first has a higher success rate for it to be on ready (start button without brake pedal).

    This morning though nothing worked I tried like 20 or more times…. nothing.

    Here are the list of things I’ve changed or repaired that I’ve done that I think is relevant to my problem with my car
    - fuse link
    - hybrid battery replaced by Greentec auto in Florida.
    - ECU replaced by same people
    - combination meter fixed
    - and yes I changed my 12v battery
     
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    And of course there are no codes no codes stored in memory everything is just blank slate? Correct?
     
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    Hello and welcome to PriusChat!

    When you say "nothing", does that mean that every time you try to ready the car, the PRNDL flashes and you hear a fan running?

    I would want to scan all of the systems on the car to see what codes are present.

    Here is a thread that reviews several scantool apps & devices.
    https://priuschat.com/index.php?posts/3290690

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  4. Bryan R

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    Yes the only code that shows up is U0293 “lost communication Hybrid Control Module”

    but it I think it’s faulty because the times when my car would start normally the code goes away. Also too I was told that if this was really a problem my would never ever start the guy said that it’s some electric issue he just can’t pinpoint. Is this true? And yes the fan is running

    ****EDIT FROM JUST 3 MIN AGO**** RIGHT NOW MY CAR STARTED LIKE NORMAL! This is what I’m talking about lol
     
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    The hybrid control module is a darned important module in the car (the orchestra conductor for everything else, pretty much), and a code about something unable to communicate with it may well come along with important things not happening.

    If that communication problem is intermittent, then stuff may well work great (and the code will be gone), when there isn't the communication problem.

    With U codes, it's extra important to know which ECU in the car has reported the code. The code itself means "hey! I can't communicate with the hybrid control module!", but it also matters which ECU is saying that. When you also know that, you can start looking at the network diagram in the repair manual to start pinning down where a communication issue could be, between those two things.

    Some scan tools tell you which ECUs reported which codes, and others just show you a big glommed-together list of codes. If you've got the kind that just gloms them together, it might be time to upgrade.
     
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    Wait how many ECUS are in the car?! I didnt know there are several. Also which kind of scanner would pinpoint that?
     
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    11 to 14, depending on the trim level.

    This thread does a comparison of a few scanners that work with the Prius from basic functions to comprehensive.
     
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    There are 15 to 16 "systems" on a Gen2 Prius that can talk to a scantool. Most have a dedicated ecu. A few aren't really separate ecu's- for example cruise control is just a function of the hybrid control ecu (which talks to other ecu's to get the job done).

    And there are a couple ecu's that don't talk to a scantool - such as the Combination Meter (speedo).

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  9. Bryan R

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    Hello everyone I’m back on this same issue I’ve been having code: U0293. Reason why I haven’t replied since then because I figured this was an issue that I could just deal with but just last week it wouldn’t start at all. So I finally decided to send it to my Toyota dealer for diagnostics and what they found is that the wire harness is causing issues, they told me that there’s “splicing” in “several areas” which they would have to address first and then see if the PCM still isn’t receiving communication.

    They would have to replace the whole wire harness which will cost 5000 plus 4000 in labor. Of course no! But my common sense is telling me that all that isn’t necessary and that perhaps the areas that are spliced could use some soldering and that they are in areas that are only accessible (I don’t see someone in the history of my car lifting a seat to splice one area of the harness for example). Perhaps this is something I can do myself?

    what do you think is this something that is simple enough, or another issue entirely please let me know?
     
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    Sounds like a crock of doggy doo to me. Or your car is a flood car you keep 4 inches of water in the floorboards of your car because well you're the crocodile hunter or something? But yeah I guess you could start lifting out seats and checking joints and t joints and all those wire looms I don't know how they would even come up with a diagnosis like this without undoing looms to have a look they're just guessing by shooting voltage and using ohms measurements and what have you I doubt it this is when I would expect people like Chapman to come along and maybe give some insight to this I have seen dealerships talk like this but when they're put to the test or the task they fail miserably so they're asking $9,000 to fix this I don't even know what model car 2008 Ford all the way to say 2013 nobody would do that that's more than vehicles worth . There are too many to buy and just put my stuff on them. $9,000 I could go out and buy five of them in the morning like.
     
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    Clearly the Greentec guys screwed it up with their “reconditioned” (used) battery and subsequent ecu parts cannon. And then they apparently gave up, sop for the typical used battery guys.

    The dealer is probably seeing some repair attempts, probably by the guys above.

    Maybe if they simply used butt joints or the old twisted strands and tape technique.

    But I doubt it. It would be helpful to know which ecu they replaced and better yet if you have the original one. Most likely the hv battery is bad and too many cooks in the kitchen has added problems.
     
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    Get a bootleg copy of techstream. ebay/amazon under mini vci cable. if you're paranoid also get a cheap used laptop to run it on. expect a learning curve.
     
  13. Bryan R

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    Well I tell you what caused the cascade of issues I believe is getting my car jumped prior to all of these things happening 2 years ago from there a cascade of issues occurred I had to change the fusable link, inverter converter, then ecu.

    Actually there is a detail I did forget to say, I did get my battery change once prior to these guys and that battery lasted for like a year prior to going to the battery pack I have now since then.
     
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    did you ever properly pull all the codes?
     
  15. Bryan R

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    Yes I did actually it’s u0293