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Why I went to Port Isabel TX

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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    It was 1,180 miles and 24 hours of Full Self Driving for this:




      • Weather, foggy, warm, and humid, no video but plenty of audio.
      • Six miles from launch site, close enough for me.
      • I will be back for the booster and Starship landing.
    Bob Wilson
     
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    Funny how it set off at least one car alarm. Watched the re-entry where one of the guidance flippers appear to disintegrate 50%, yet the vehicle still made it to a splash down.
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I suspect the flaps will disappear and more ''hot thrusters.

    Fun fact, our first ICBM was the Atlas which was a little more than a stainless steel, fuel filled, balloon, It had to be pressurized after manufacturing or it would collapse and destroy the body. Fun to see SpaceX revive stainless steel structures for both rockets and a Tesla pickup truck.

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    ATLAS AGENA ROCKET DEPRESSURIZES ON PAD, COLLAPSES AND TEARS ITSELF TO PIECES


    The Space Review: Not a bang, but a whimper

    That wasn't the one I was actually searching for. I had been aware of a different launch vehicle crumpling like a soda can, but it was a different incident, the very last of some model line that was struck and damaged by a crane while on the pad. Total loss.

    Also, a different case of a different rocket in the very early days, tumbling out of control mid-flight. It didn't fall apart until someone hit the Destruct button. Engineers cursed, because its survival while tumbling meant that it was stronger than necessary, thus too heavy. So for the next sample, while some worked out the control system bugs, others thinned the tank skin even more, shaving off several hundred pounds.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Heard of a three story stainless tank of shampoo crumpling like a soda can cause somebody didn't open a vent before draining it.
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    Back in the Atlas days they used less and less and less SS because it was a fire-and-forget rocket.
    Interestingly enough, Boeing's trouble plagued space vehicle was lofted aboard.......an Atlas V.
    God does love irony.

    The good news for Boeing is that nothing fell off of it on the way up.

    We squids use a 'slightly modified road flare' for our rocketry and they're made from some hush-hush graphite epoxy blend.
    Since there's nothing sloshing around inside the tube (we have to LIVE inside the boat with the things!) and we don't want anything to return to the launch site this simplifies the design problem.

    NASA learned the hard way that the most difficult part about going to space is those first 6-inches.
    The acid test is to throw a part up into the air.
    If it falls back down it's too heavy.
    Musk has the added requirement of having to build it robustly enough to be re-used - so no cardboard tubes or stainless steel structures that are sheer enough that you can read an EULA through them.

    HIS mantra isn't "it's too heavy" but rather: "The best part is NO part!"


    Musk never does ANYTHING easy.
    After trying to 'Henry Ford' the BEV he also tried to make them L5 autonomous at the same time.

    I wouldn't have done it that way, but Elon runs TWO fairly big companies that he pretty much built using a white sheet of paper and his PayPal money.

    I used my PayPal money last week to buy a 1:9 Balun (Unun?)
    SO.....he seems to be getting along doing things HIS way.
     
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