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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by avoice217, Sep 29, 2022.

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    In my experience, the latch was failing over time. It exhibited an odd assortment of symptoms that sounded like what the OP was stating and I attributed to bad 12v battery or otherwise.

    The way I diagnosed it was to remove the actuator cover and watch from the inside while someone else opened the hatch or tried to open it from the outside. I noticed that the actuator was lethargic and struggled to complete its rotation, not always but often and increasingly frequently. At times before I replaced it, I had to lock and unlock with the key fob or double press the hatch button. Eventually that did not work but once in twenty times.

    Since I replaced it, it works flawlessly.

    Also, the replacement is too new looking to be twelve years old.
     
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    So I'm gonna go ahead and replace the CM because I now have to jump the car every single time I try to use it. The CM just won't turn on without a jump start now, so it's definitely that.
     
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    what does the 12v measure?
     
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    Hey all so here's a small update: so I thought that the combo meter was bad. After doing some backtrack, I found out that I forgot to plug in the cable that connects the dash display to the combo meter to show me the info. However, there's some bad news with this. This unfortunately didn't fix my issue. The display immediately shuts down when I turn off the car. I did look at the original board & there appears to be nothing wrong with it as it looks just as good as the refurb board that I received today. So now the only thing I can think of is that there's a bad fuse or something else.
     
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    Hey all, so I was finally able to get the car back working again. Apparently the computer had me test the parking brake for some weird reason. However, after that was completed the car was finally able to start up without the help of my portable jump starter. I seriously thought that the fuse was bad, but apparently its not as I haven't received stating 'There is a problem with the transmission 'P' lock mechanism'. It's weird though because the old combo meter looked way better than the guy from Youtube. In fact I took a couple of seconds to look at the old one and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. Overall, im happy to have my prius back and working and looking forward to driving it more (not to mention saving gas with it compared to my truck).
     
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    Glad you got it working. FYI, the faulty capacitor in the CM almost never has any visual indication that it's bad. Unlike many others, these usually don't bulge or leak. It merely can't do what it's supposed to.



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    So here's a small update on my end: I just got done being at AutoZone & I found out that my battery is fine, just needs a charge. They said that the state of the charge is at 50%, so when I get back home, I'm gonna take the battery to my local AutoZone & have them put it through a slow charge cycle.
     
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    Ok so this should be the final update: I found out that my battery was purchased last year by my mom (it used to belong to her) and the battery came from O'Reillys, so I went by there to get a complete understanding of the process of slow charging. Originally I would've kept the battery there until almost closing time. However, by a freak incident where I accidently left the negative cable attached, somehow the guy at O'Reillys made contact with the wrench with the positive terminal (maybe some kind of corrosive material went from the negative terminal to the positive), but needless to say it caused multiple sparks & I guess this was a safety hazard, which warranted them to give me a brand new battery on the spot. Thankfully they happened to have one in stock (just my luck as these are difficult to come by now n days). The guy said that it stays under the original warranty, so I have about 2 years left on the new battery. So I connected the new battery based on how they enlightened me in terms of how to connect the battery and how I'm gonna have to give the computer time to recognize the new battery. Overall I'm thinking that this fixed the remainder of my overall issues, but honestly I'm probably gonna stay a little weary (especially based on all the hassle I've had to deal with on these issues as of lately).

    On a side note, what I don't get is how a regular 12v battery loses that much charge within maybe around a year of ownership. All I can think of is possible poor workmanship (putting the battery together possibly in a shotty way) or some sort of faulty mechanics. My understanding is that these lead acid batteries in general are supposed to last easily past their warranty period. /rant
     
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    unlike most gassers, prius battery is very small, because it doesn't need to turn over the engine.

    however, there is a constant drain when the car is off, and if it isn't driven enough, the battery will continue to discharge to a point where driving isn't enough to charge it back up, it needs a charger.

    there are sometimes problems where the drain on the battery with the car off is higher than spec due to electrical issues.
    it is also possible to get a defective battery, which is why warranties are important
     
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    Hey all, just wanted to give a small update and ask a brief question. So for the most part the car is running fine. However, I've noticed that the computer would end up resetting itself in terms of the mpg stats since the battery change. This happens at random points since the new battery installation. Should I just be patient with the process or should I look into something? I know I didn't have this issue with my older '05 prius when I had to change out the battery on it.
     
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    Does the clock display the correct time? I might double check that the battery connections are secure, that the bolt for the negative cable (at the body) is snug, that none of the white connectors at the positive cable end are loose (ie, the dome light doesn't flicker when you wiggle the connections).

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    When somebody advises "to check" if the terminals are tight, you should also check to ensure the clamps are seated all the way to the bottom and seated on the flat face at the bottom of the terminal. If not back off the tightening bolt so that you can pry the clamp open so that it will slide right to the bottom of the terminal. Then hold it in place while tightening the bolt. Ensure you don't lever the clamp up with the wrench. I prefer a closed wrench or a socket to avoid this. The bolt does not need to be super tight (I think something like 13 ft-lbs) but when done, the clamp should not be able to be twisted by hand no matter how hard you twist it.

    I hope that helps.
     
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    Hey all heres a small update: so I literally just came back from my local dealership and they helped me figure out which bolt was needed to secure the negative cable to the ground hole. I did find out that I had the correct bolt in there and apparently ran out of patience the first time as I was able to get the bolt tight into the hole. However, as soon as I got home, that didn't appear to fix the issue as it still continues. Also I don't see a reason to put in the extra effort to move both the 'clamps' all the way down to the bottom of the 12v battery as both are very secure.
     
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    Hey all, so FINALLY I just received news that my hybrid battery pack arrived (I was originally told 3 weeks, but took just over 2 months). So now the question becomes over the oil and the gas in my car since my prius has been sitting for over 6 months waiting for the new battery. I recently saw a video from Scotty talking about how the oil can sit there for some time, but yet the gas is a different situation. I won't be installing the battery today because I need to install new lift struts for the hatchback door.
     
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    You shouldn't need to worry about the gas or the oil sitting for 6 months. If you feel the need you can change the oil after fitting the new battery.
     
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    So I started the process of getting the part that attaches to the battery pack connected & its definitely been an interesting learning experience for sure. Based on how everything looks, I should be able to get the battery pack into the car tomorrow & check everything out from there. In terms of the old bus bars, they're definitely gonna go back with the old battery pack, which makes sense. There's some extra connectors and possibly cables that I'm confused by, so I'll be posting those tomorrow. Also I went ahead & ordered new struts for the hatch since the original ones have already failed (I figured as much since the hatch has been sitting open for over half a year). Hopefully once I put the new battery pack in, the car will begin to run like normal again.
     
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    Ok so here's an update on my end: so the new hybrid battery pack is in. I just installed a brand new battery today & now I'm getting a P0AC2 code. I only see one video on Youtube talking about the ECU module and somehow their module got burned out. So while I do check on the ECU module itself, I'm open to any other ideas on what to check.
     
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    So this cable is the ONLY thing that seems to be keeping my Prius from running. However, I can't seem to find the connection point that it's supposed to go to. Any ideas?
     

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    Is there a trouble code?
     
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    Yes I just posted it above, but Ill type it again. P0AC2, Hybrid Battery Pack Current Sensor 'A' Circuit High. I'm not sure if this connector that I uploaded a photo of is supposed to connect to anything because everything else is connected properly. I'm really confused as to what the issue might be. I've read in the forums where others just cleared the codes, but I'm not really sure if I should try to do that with this code or not.