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Arctic Ice

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by bwilson4web, Jun 18, 2024.

  1. tochatihu

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    @fuzzy1 might agree with these ideas:

    Science at its most simple necessarily includes math along with other disciplines.

    Science at its most simple is not 'hard' but often taught by those who do not understand it themselves. This proliferates even into bad examples of science communication by media.

    Remembering facts for exams does not 'teach' science well, but recognizing inter relationships builds brains.

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    With desire to teach deeper (later) one confronts students taking other courses needing time and attention. In Biology one might invoke sex and excretion as interesting and to compete. Chemistry and Physics have their own sparkly things.

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    'The world' changes again in post graduate research. Continuing participants have some idea of what to do, and need to connect with (funded) research groups so that each can change the other. Some aspirants at this level have split off and became media communicators for science. It is for me a joy to read them. Others staying in the system will do and publish more or less well, but mostly unknown to humans at large. Because they have been taught to not care, and not equipped with understanding that would help them care.

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    For me, science is pretty much everything. I am in the hated elite for knowing things. I wish that everyone could see some of the amazing things I see, but know that other forces benefit from people not knowing things. I truly believe that there are other distant planets with civilizations also holding their 'people' back. And maybe just a few somewhere not holding their people back.

    I am unaccountably lucky to live now; allowed to know things, and having access to medical that has allowed me another decade to see and enjoy, and maybe another decade. I envy younger ones who will see more later, but also fear that not all will go well for them.

    It's always something :eek:
     
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  3. tochatihu

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    Does anyone have a different answer? :D
     
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    As an actual witness from inside the Arctic Circle, from Tromso and a few other northern Norwegian communities at and around the summer solstice a few years ago, I shouldn't be a spoiler, but just sit back and read what reasoning others come up with.
     
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    Facing the Sun, it moves to the right. You have to turn to the right to continue facing it.

    Back to the sun, it moves to the left and the shadow moves to the right.

    Than the mosquitos . . .

    Bob Wilson
     
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    That is the proper Northern Hemisphere answer.

    When people change hemispheres, away from the tropics, the sun may seem to move backwards. Moon and stars too.
     
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    Here's some documentation of the Feb 2020 heat wave that lists the 62 F air temps and shows satellite images of two different days in Feb 2020 as well as the a melt pond.
    Dramatic Melting of Antarctica Under Record Heat Caught by Shocking NASA Satellite Images

    Also found this story from 2018 on Antarctic pollution
    Manmade pollution reaches Antarctica – antarcticstories

    What do all these things mean, much like the B mode in a Prius, ask 50 people to explain it and you'll more than likely get 50 different answers.
     
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    I always wanted a globe
     
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