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2014 Prius c motor install into 2008 Prius

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by black_jmyntrn, Jun 30, 2024 at 1:42 PM.

  1. black_jmyntrn

    black_jmyntrn Senior Member

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    Has anyone looked into this, so far it looks like the manual water pump on the older motor and the electric water pump on the newer motor is the biggest hurdle I need to overcome. Looking for suggestions or anything outside the box method that you think would work to accomplish this task
     
    #1 black_jmyntrn, Jun 30, 2024 at 1:42 PM
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    You're putting that engine into an older car that has no controller for electric water pumping so you would have to add or fab up some kind of control so there's always that You could use the newer block and head assembly and put the old stuff possibly on the newer blocking head Not sure about that but from what I understand this newer engine you're looking at has the flood type EGR the same valve that the generation 3 2ZZ has so I'm not sure I would want to go that route in my lovely generation too It seemingly to me would be working backwards I guess there have been some head gasket problems on the NZ engine with the electric EGR valve and the electric water pump similar to the two ZZ. And I wouldn't want to welcome those problems back into my life for what 3 mi to the gallon possibly oh no that's quite all right And in other markets I think there's a five NZ I don't know anything about it so there's that but the fact that it's an NZ derivative probably maybe make some parts useful. But fitting the old water pump to the new engine without seeing the castings and things sitting side by side hard to know Toyota's not like they used to be for these type of things like s engines and the beams engines things like that they've made it a lot more difficult for the engine swaps in these newer designs.
     
    #2 Tombukt2, Jun 30, 2024 at 1:46 PM
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    I know what you're talking about as I've seen the newer model motor as of last week at the shop of a JDM importer who is very open and willing to have me 3D scan anything and hopes of making it work for not only the Prius but his Tacoma as well. I told him if he gets our fines on some list that he shops for these motors a V8 4x4 hybrid motor from one of those Japan vehicles to get it and I'd want to try to put it in his Tacoma...

    I didn't have time to 3D scan the updated Prius c motor I'll go back next week to do that however I did 3D scan the generation 2 Prius motor and I 3D scanned the entire engine bay with the motor out of the car.

    Right now I am not letting any current unknowns are known based on anything distract me for the simple fact that right now I just put a non fxe motor into my Prius and with changing the outside parts and the ECU it works and so that just allows my brain to not even think about the negatives of what can't be done because of what can't be done something tells me that there's a lot more to all of this interchangeable parts then we know and I have already uncovered quite a few different things that allows me to just think that anything can be done until I realize it can't...

    It was my plug-in that let me know and open my eyes to how smart the ECU is of these vehicles thereby my thought and even success with this and putting a motor from a different vehicle into a Prius and the ECU adjusting and making changes it needs to make to make the motor operate as efficiently as possible. So with the water pump my thought is we could use out of belt and a bracket that will hold the manual part of the pump and then tubing custom to go from the manual pump to the electric pump opening into the engine
     

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    I think the FXE engine even the later model will still allow the water pump to bolt up It just hangs where the alternator kind of sore goes little below it and there's no alternator in the Prius although you could put the bracket I guess and hang on there but I'm not sure what you do with it. the hybrid in the Tacoma shouldn't be a huge problem You just got to get the right motor kind of like the one they're using in the Siena van or something along those lines If you want to go V8 well I guess there's that the Lexus has the V8 hybrid. So in your '08 with the non-FXE motor are you driving that now Is it on the road or is it all in in the shop I mean it's a no-brainer it'll all fit I'm interested in how does it work and drive The camshafts are for sure different part numbers but no matter certainly the computer has a certain range of adjustment obviously. Just interested if there's any balance issues between the higher horsepower non FXE engine and the electric motors any clanking
     
    #4 Tombukt2, Jun 30, 2024 at 9:42 PM
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