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Collision damage to AC Condenser

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Trafficat, Jul 8, 2024 at 12:15 AM.

  1. Trafficat

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    After a collision with a rock, apparently to the passenger bottom of the front, the A/C is now blowing hot air.

    EDIT: Thread title says condenser, but I guess this is the compressor.

    Based on these pictures is it pretty safe to say this AC Compressor is toast?

    My plan is to replace the compressor and figure out how to refill with the gas. I'm guessing I can unbolt this thing and reattach a new one, some on ebay mention they come with lubricant of some kind installed. Then I guess fill with gas. Possibly as simple as buying a thingy and pushing it into a nipple. Or maybe I need some more advanced instrumentation to do it right?

    If anyone has any thoughts after looking at the pictures let me know. Kinda praying at this point I can swap it out and don't have damage to any lines.

    I believe this is showing a large crack between the base where the bolts go gin and the compressor

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    The bolts are kinda smushed. I'm guessing this must have been the contact point with the rock. The only other known damage to the car is that the air intake resonator got torn off.

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    I think there is a crack above the bolt tube on both of them, and my finger came away with black fluid touching the region. So I'm guessing that the system is leaking from those bolts and that it may be the source of my troubles.
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    This tube looking thing from the compressor is now touching the oil filter... bent I guess, but I am not seeing much damage... still a bit concerning that there could be more damage to this system than just to the compressor. I don't see obvious problems other than bent parts, but I'm not the most trained eye. Not sure what will happen when I need to replace the oil filter, but I'm guessing it shouldn't be a problem.

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    Some kind of fluid leaked out onto the bottom plastic protector. It seemed clear but somewhat slimy.

    Thanks in advance for the help.
     
    #1 Trafficat, Jul 8, 2024 at 12:15 AM
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    Codes are 21 23 33 43 62 when starting with a/c auto and recirc buttons on dash.

    Where can I find the meaning of these codes?
     
    #2 Trafficat, Jul 8, 2024 at 3:07 AM
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    compressor makes no noise when running AC and does not feel warm or vibrate
     
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    The Repair manual. Do you have a copy to refer to?

    It doesn't always work this way but for the A/C codes the two-digit blink code maps directly the the last two digits of the DTC. The first three characters of the DTC are B14, so your codes would be B1421, B1423, B1433, etc.
    Fairly sure that the compressor should be running.
     
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    I was looking at something that seemed like a repair manual, and I think I found that the 21 code meant something irrelevant but maybe I didn't find the other things. I will try and relocate that pdf I found somewhere and check for the B14 codes.

    Considering the apparently cracked housing which seems to have leaked an oily substance, my guess is that the whole system is compromised and there is no more lubricant nor refrigerant in the system. Since I hear and feel no commotion from the compressor, perhaps it is possible that it has burnt out from trying to run without oil and it is totally dead.

    I guess I will order a refurbished compressor that supposedly comes with lubricant in it. Then take the old one off, and put new one on, connect everything, get a vacuum pump to evacuate the system of air, and verify that it holds vacuum, add R134a, and hope for the best.
     
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    Time is of the essence but you need to do now is unbolt the compressor and the pipes leave the pipes hanging put a piece of blue tape over the pipes or whatever you have some rubber stuff called dumb dumb yeah I know and so your pipes will be somewhat blocked off and moisture is not just flying into the pipes to the desiccant sac. This will give you a few minutes some time to figure out what you're going to do here everything should be damaged that's right there at the compressor The damage just doesn't go down the line because there's some tubes connecting everything was the compressor running when it hit the rock? More than likely it just hit got compromised the pressure leaked out take the compressor off seal up the pipes figure out what you're going to do for a compressor and anything else that you see smashed and messed up Make sure when you go get your other compressor you take the bolts with you or you have the yard pull the bolts and give them to you with the compressor then you can go ahead and install the compressor connect up the pipes maybe put new o-rings on the pipes they're black or green on the end of the pipes put a little lubricant on them doesn't matter what it is insert the pipes tighten up the bolts now you're sitting good nothing can go in and out of the system anymore the pipes are connected back to a predominantly sealed system at this point most people are going to tell you you need the pool a vacuum with an air compressor or a air pump and bring it to minus 30 in of vacuum and it needs to sit there for 30 minutes and not move the gauge after that you're looking to drop approximately 1.2 lb of freon into your system and it should work again pretty much pretty uneventful really and let's try to stay away from these boulders holy Jesus I would have hoped this would be off-road on a dirt road driveway something.
     
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    Repair Manual excerpts attached. The links don’t work; if the doc’s helpful but referencing something else crucial let me know; I’ll try to find and upload.
     

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    More likely the system is locked out by the pressure switch. It prevents the compressor from activating when the overall system pressure is either too high or too low. If the system leaked out, the switch will have tripped the low-pressure side and the controller won't attempt to run the compressor until this is corrected.

    I'd probably try a leak test before buying a compressor. I'd want to be real sure I knew where the leak was before spending that much.
     
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    The B1423 is about the pressure switch, sure enough. The refrigerant has leaked out. The slimy stuff is the oil the refrigerant is mixed with.

    B1421 is only there as a way to tell the solar sensor on the dash works. If it is not in bright light, you have B1421.

    The B1433 and B1443 are about a servo motor in the dash that selects which outlets the air will come out of. B1462 is about the inside humidity sensor (it's behind a small grillwork in the plastic above the driver's knee). Being both inside under the dash, the servo and the humidity sensor don't seem like likely candidates for damage by the same rock that hit the compressor. I wonder if those codes could have been preexisting?
     
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    I do not know what else was hurt from the impact. The compressor is cracked and was shoved up "a bunch". Hope the mounting points on the engine aren't cracked as well.

    It looks like the radiator crossmember was tweaked some. In pic #5 you can see the hose assembly is touching the crossmember- there should be a gap there.

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