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I still don't see how you can make a judgement about a system from a video of it being used improperly.

The upcoming Polestar model will have a driver camera.

From the CR article, "The Mercedes and Lexus/Toyota ACC systems scored top marks for their well-tuned following-gap distance settings. Our testers found the closest setting to be comfortable in high-traffic areas while still not allowing so much space that other vehicles would continually cut in ahead. We also like that the Mercedes and Subaru ACC systems have settings that allow the driver to adjust the deceleration and acceleration force with which it slows down and speeds back up for traffic ahead."

That's where they edged out Autopilot. CR hadn't tested FSD for that publication. There is at least one thread here about those results where someone posted more details on the scoring.

No FSD for you then?

 

no, i opted out of super cruise. i'm too old and don't drive anywhere. as i said, one pedal driving already has me slow on the brake. using the regen paddle isn't helping either, i keep trying to pull it on mrs b's hycam, and wind up slamming the brake pedal a little late.
my brother just leased a model y and is amazed at how well fsd works. and we have several acquaintances who also love it.
i have yet to run into anyone who thinks it can completely drive the car without their paying attention and occasional input, but i also don't know any drunk drivers, it's a small sample.

 

Yearly florida ?

 

Because the Volvo behaved exactly like that and when you're accustom to Autopilot, it was a useless feature. I was glad to be back behind the wheel of my Model 3.

Finally, they've stopped "resisting"

 

Regarding lies - in Germany its now common to sue Tesla before selling (or giving back) your used Model 3/Y so you get back the money for FSD as well (including interest of course!).

 

Seeing how Tesla was charging up to $15,000 for it, I would hope it would be better than the standard ADAS in other cars. Might even have had to spend thousands more to get Autopilot with the features to match the others.

Tesla started selling full self driving here four years before a selection of the buyers got to be testers. That is what is driving a class action suite against them.

 

I can understand that but e

That was for FSD, Autopilot has always been included with the car while most auto manufacturers includes theirs with the higher trims. The only thing Autopilot is missing from other Level 2 ADAS is auto reactivation after a lane change. Beside that, it's a much more capable system compared to any other Level 2 ADAS.

Blue Cruise is at a cost of $75/month. FSD is $100/month with a subscription and I would rather be paying $25 more per month for a system as complete as FSD that can be used anywhere, even on private dirt roads compared to a system that can be used fully (but still very limited) on just selected segments of some highways in NA.

 

Tesla had basic Level 2 ADAS through Autopilot standard before most. When the market of similarly price cars had it standard, many also included extra abilities. Needed Enhanced Autopilot to match them. When FSD was $15k, EAP was $6k. Tesla got rid of EAP this year, which meant getting FSD for $8k to get the EAP features.

CR rated Ford, Toyota, Mercedes, and BMW the same or better than Autopilot in capability. TSS 3+ is standard for most 2024 Toyotas, including the Corolla. Those that have a lesser TSS will be due for a redesign in a couple years.

You could get the BlueCruise for under $60/month with the annual $700 plan.
But I'm happy continuing to pay $0 a month for Eyesight.