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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by sworzeh, Mar 12, 2024.

  1. rjparker

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    Salesmen continue to be suspect. I don’t see the Principal on here helping anyone understand the issues or even offering his qualifications.

    I have been here since 2008.
     
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    I feel like I'm in an alternate reality when I read such things.
     
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  3. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Wow. I'm sorry your behaviour online is appalling. Putting words into my mouth certainly isn't a flattering look and coming onto this forum to divide our members is not a positive environment that PriusChat is known for.

    Certainly not what I said. He had a product that he wanted to show off and all I said was let his product stand on its own merit rather than putting down a competitor. He wanted to start another thread and I said no because the same people are going to chime in and it'll end up like the thread I closed. But if a thread, any thread, devolves into members throwing insults, that thread gets closed. It's always been that way. Most forum moderators would do so. Mudder said he was a moderator himself a decade ago. But somehow mudder takes it personally. :rolleyes:

    But you know, I'll let mudder post the screenshot since he loves to do so.
     
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    @Tideland Prius:
    First, thank you for taking the time to clarify your position. I appreciate that being PriusChat's sole active moderator (by my understanding) is a difficult task.

    ...

    Second, regarding me "putting words into your mouth", how else would you expect me to interpret the following interaction (via PM)?:
    mudder wrote (in part):
    Tideland wrote (in part):
    mudder wrote (in part):
    You did not reply to this message, hence my understanding that the statement I wrote was interpreted correctly.
    You also did not reply to the public thread I created to further discuss this issue. I sent you a link to this thread in our private conversation.

    Given the above, I publicly commented the statement you are now taking issue with:
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    Regardless, now that we are discussing this issue again (albeit off-topic in this thread IMO), I would like @Tideland Prius to address how it is that I'm supposed to go about continuing a public discussion on this thread, when all it takes is a couple bad actors on the opposing team to lock down my thread? That was your previously stated reason as to why I "will not create a new thread" (because "it will simply devolve again as you are well aware that certain members will participate and I will have to close it again").

    So how do you propose I continue discussing this contentious matter? Again, thank you for taking the time to further clarify this forum's position regarding discussing controversial safety related claims.

    ...

    Finally, I am amazed that this forum's sole moderator's official response is that "@mudder I'm sorry your behavior online is appalling". I am bringing up these issues because there are safety-related design deficiencies in a product being offered for sale to this forum's members. In the process, I'm getting attacked by what I call 'Team Jack Members' (IMO a more appropriate name than 'trolls'). I simply can't comprehend why some members on this forum are allowed to post; they add nothing constructive to the discussion, agitate 'fair' actors (including Jack himself), and are able to sabotage real scientific discourse so much so that we are unable to continue conversing.

    I certainly expected pushback from my inconvenient claims regarding NexPower's several products, but I didn't expect the moderation stance that has kneecapped my ability to further discuss these claims.

    I suppose it's time for me to bow and exit this forum, which I anticipate will make Team Jack happy. Congratulations to Team Jack for once again running off a person issuing dire warnings against NexPower's products. At the end of the day, I tried. I suppose I won't be missed, and won't let the door hit me on the way out. Thanks for all the fish.
     
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  5. bisco

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    Personally, I don’t think any scientist data and evidence should be censored in any way.
    Maybe just delete the personal posts?
     
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    mudder, is it possible at all for you to chill a bit? You have valuable technical content to contribute, but if you can't imagine a response to having annoyed our one volunteer moderator other than to do it some more and turned to 11, I can't help wondering how that's going to work out.
     
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  7. rjparker

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    This is an important fact that can’t just be dismissed simply because the companies representatives want to squash informed discussions.
     
  8. Tideland Prius

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    I was gonna say. Coming in guns ablazing usually doesn't work out.

    If you have issues with members, report them. I have dealt with your reports before mudder and you're well aware of that. You seem to have resigned to the fact that I "burst your bubble". Maybe you should heed your rules in the InsightCentral thread a

    1: must add to the scientific discussion (e.g. supporting, refuting, or stating a new a claim).
    2: must not attack any person posting in this thread.
    3: must be made in good faith.

    If you agree to this, you can start a thread. But if you create more work for me by having a long list of reports every time I log on, I'm not going to be a happy camper.