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"0w-20" vs "5-w20" vs "0w-20 high mileage"

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by kenlav, Aug 10, 2024 at 2:27 PM.

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    From what i understand, is 0w-20 is THINNER than 0w-20 high mileage, and 0w-20 is THINNER than 5w-20.

    Keeping in mind that I have an oil consumption problem im currently working on, about 1quart per 800-1000 miles. Which is thicker/better, and whats the difference between 0w-20 and 5-w20?

    My ultimate question is which to use, because of it doesnt matter, then im just going to buy whichever is cheapest/on sale at the time.... right?
     
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    Isn't a 2006 Prius suppose to take 5W30 oil?

    To answer your questions 0w20 is thinner than 5w20, when cold. They both are suppose to shift to 20 weight when hot. The 0w20 high mileage is supposed to meet uniform specifications but individualized testing seems to indicate that it's slightly thicker and has more wear prevention additives in it.

    Hope this helps.....
     
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    a heavier oil may help some. As mentioned, at least stick with the weight on the fill cap (and owners manual), 5W30. “high mileage” oils basically have extra additives that swell seals, in particular the seals on the valve stems.

    Taking out the spark plugs and putting in a solvent you “may” be able to loosen piston ring deposits.

    ultimately you’d need to either rebuild the pistons with new rings, or a new short block (the portion of engine between upper oil pan and head gasket), plus a machine shop go-over of the head, with new valve seals.

    Get the complete gasket kit and head bolts. Toyota has both, and probably best bet. The gasket kit includes a new head bolts.
     
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    I made a typo, but it wont let me edit my post.

    Im actually burning about 1 quart per 2000-3000 miles, and im putting in about 4 oz of seafoam, 300 miles before an oil change.

    Actually i was just asking which oil you recommend, if its just some oil burning, i dont mind it too much, its 100% manageable if 0w-20 gives me better mpg.
     
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    IMHO, it doesn't really. You don't have to take my word for it, track your mileage when you use 0w20. You better keep an eye on your oil level, going thinner than OEM recommendations will likely cause more oil burn - coating the CAT, leading to expensive repairs down the road to save pennies now.
    If your not in snow country, I'd move back to 5w30 or 10w30 to prevent the oil burn to avoid an expensive CAT replacement, down the road.

    It's your car, experiment with it....
     
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    High mileage oil "might" help, if the consumption's due to leakage past the valve stem guides/seals. Once you start on it, best to stick with it. If you return to regular oil apparently the guides/seals can shrink back, be worse.
     
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    Quality matters, especially with newer, tighter tolerance equipment. Same goes for motor oil.

    I inherited my dad's old Toyota SR5 pickup. It required some work to get it back to 100%, mechanically. When I was driving it home, I noticed it had a low oil pressure issue when hot and idling. It was the first gen V6 and had the head gasket recall done on it and 185K miles on the clock. I ordered a full timing belt kit & new radiator, top tank had small holes so leaking coolant to boot. While I was waiting for the parts to arrive, I did basic maintenance on it, spark plug, check the brakes, rotate the tires, oil change. After that the low oil pressure issue when hot and idling went away. Later found out that dad got lazy and took the truck to Jiffy lube for oil changes, it was that cheap drum oil they used that didn't meet specifications when hot. That's probably why they tell their customers to do oil changes every 3000 miles.

    Just something to think about when you reach for the cheap, no-name stuff.... Penny-wise, Pound foolish..
     
    #7 BiomedO1, Aug 11, 2024 at 2:55 PM
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