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Who do we trust?

Discussion in 'Fred's House of Pancakes' started by AzusaPrius, Aug 13, 2024 at 4:18 PM.

  1. AzusaPrius

    AzusaPrius Senior Member

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    So we all know a user who became a member here on 3/13/2024 who goes by mudder is now banned.

    He has only been here to create posts knocking another members work, you can verify that by looking at his profile.

    Mudder a former Texan with friends there too...

    Then we have another member who started here on 5/30/2024 who goes by Stencil_box who lives in Texas.

    He too has only posted knocking another members work.

    He posts in the thread "My project lithium battery caught fire"

    Saying in post #208 he got a v2.0 battery on 8/2023 and then got a FREE upgrade to v2.5 with a soother on 2/2024.

    I asked him for his order # but he did not respond to that.

    In post #210 his shows a picture of "burnt" modules.

    I told him it looks like he put a blow torch to them and he did not respond.

    On 4/2024 he had an incident, "whether the soother was installed or not" he said.

    (In my thread "project lithium soother test" his post # 213 he says mudder does not know who he is and that he collected no bounty for sending mudder the soother.)

    Then in post #214 he says the soother was installed and has same experience as sworzeh.

    Then in the thread
    "discussion: nexpower v3 sodium-ion battery announcement"

    his post #37 he says he got a prototype v3.3 on 5/10/2024 (this is the prototype mudder got to make his video)

    You see what we have here are two friends who conned our member jacktheripper who has been here since 12/13/2017

    Stencil_box got a free v2.5 upgrade with a soother and sent the soother to mudder, then he claims the v2.5 battery burnt and gets a prototype v3.3 and he also sent that to mudder.

    I will upload the image stencil_box says was the burnt modules and then the image or sworzeh's burnt modules and then an image of a module I had in my car with the soother for sure installed.

    So how can we trust anything mudder says if he denies knowing who stencil_box is when they are friends from Texas?

    How can we trust what stencil_box says if he says mudder doesnt know who he is?

    They have been gaslighting everyone here and are trying to sabotage Jacktheripper's work as mudder wants to be a competitor and his friend stencil_box helped him get the products he needed to make his YouTube videos.
     
  2. AzusaPrius

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    Here is an image the stencil_box claims caught fire.

    Notice the modules are flat against eachother with no modules swollen.

    Just looks like he took a torch to them.
    Screenshot_2024-08-13-11-50-58.jpeg
     
  3. AzusaPrius

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    Here is an image a member sworzeh posted.

    Notice the module is swollen. Screenshot_2024-08-13-11-53-01.jpeg
     
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    Here is a module I had in my car with the soother installed.

    Notice how the module is swollen. Screenshot_2024-08-13-11-55-07.jpeg
     
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    So why is the stencil_box image not swollen and he wasnt sure the soother was installed or not, well because he sent the soother to mudder thats why.

    he just put a blow torch to the v2.5 and got a v3 prototype after he did that and then sent the prototype to mudder.
     
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    PriusChat has a whole lot of members, who might not all have followed the few threads involved the way you have.

    Unless something has changed since the last message from Danny that I saw, 'banned' above should be 'temporarily banned', as explained by Danny so that mudder perhaps can "come back with a different approach."

    The whole situation at this point is probably the kind that benefits from all parties steering away from tendentious spinning.
     
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    I’m not smart enough to understand the science, but I was hoping the technical discussion would lead to safer products
     
  8. AzusaPrius

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    Hey welcome to the table chapman, have a seat...

    Facts are facts chapman and banned is banned.

    Click on his profile, it says banned not temporarily banned, whether Danny said it was temporarily, that can always change.

    You seem to not notice that these two new members here are friends and conned another member into getting products that were used to make videos, getting intel and trash talking at the same time.

    What you say is your opinion and thats okay, it is how you think and there is nothing anyone can do about that.

    But this is not just for your eyes and your opinion, this is for all the eyes that saw the lies as they were being told.

    Truth will be told and the truth hurts.
     
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    I know I trust John Sullivan’s expertise and experience far more than the SoCal sales crew.

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    This thread was definitely created in the correct sub-forum, "Fred's House of Pancakes". I will give you credit for that.

    As far as two members that live and/or used to live in Texas are friends, I see no proof given for that statement. I think that there have been many millions of people who live and/or used to live in Texas. Does this mean they are all friends with each other?
     
  11. AzusaPrius

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    Hey rjparker welcome to the table, have a seat.

    As I already posted an image of sworzeh's battery that is nothing new that you are posting.

    As for you trusting John Sullivan's aka mudder's "expertise" and "experience" well I guess you are one of those that fall for his con.

    Aside from any promo codes I get to help this community save some cash on products they may like, I am a tester and consumer and have these HV batteries in my car that is my daily driver and have my family in.

    No fire or smoke and even with a soother installed, nothing dangerous about these.

    As for sworzeh's issue, Jack responded with what the cause was with the image below. Screenshot_2024-06-12-09-45-42-1.jpeg
     
  12. AzusaPrius

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    Hi brian1954 welcome to the table, have a seat.

    There is no reason for some random person who doesnt know mudder to send him their HV battery or soother to test, without taking a bounty that was also offered by mudder by the way.

    They know eachother and lied about it plain and simple.

    Mudder knows who stencil_box is by name and told him to come here and post.

    J.S. was just "protecting" T.W.
     
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    I don't remember starting this thread, maybe cause of the response I got from Chapman and the less volatile post from mutter whom wasn'[t offensive at all in his post, but did confirm what I read in his post months eariler at insightcentral.
    Discussion: NexPower V3 Sodium-ion Battery Announcement | PriusChat


    Don't get me wrong, mutters project is as good for a gen 1 honda insight as @jacktheripper project is for the Toyota and GM cars he already supports, besides his original Gen 2. I'm #156 private vvillovv
    But that the thing, mutters project is still beta, soon to be sold as a kit. for around $2500 minimun.

    And mutters interest in the Prius community (so far anyways) is for the $ he thinks is available from the Prius community - see his post in the link above. Only read Chapman post if you want a good laugh at my expense.

    His interest in a Prius lithium replacement for Prius NiMH is not like his interest in his own Gen 1 insight.
    His profile sig is NiMH is dead.
    Keep in mind none of the projects at insightcental for the Gen 1 insight ever supported any other honda except the gen 1 insight, except maybe the mind numbing work reported by Peter in the UK that he did on the Gen 2 Civic.

    Maybe I'm out of place for reporting here. Both chap and mutter went on my ignore list. And it seems to me this subject is not gonna cool off anytime soon, which kinda sucks for me as I'd like to ask Jack if he might be able to make 11 cylinder stick pairs for my old hybrid, but wouldn't until mutter backs off with his capitalism 101.
     
    #13 vvillovv, Aug 13, 2024 at 7:07 PM
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