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Discussion in 'Gen 5 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by 2023Priuss, Sep 12, 2024.

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    Which makes me wonder how they do initial calibration at the factory.
     
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    Sounds about right. When my LE got hit in the front passenger corner to repair the damage cost about $3k. To calibrate cost another $1500.
     
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    I bet it takes about five minutes to do the same job on the assembly line.

    The big problem with the calibration is that you have to have everything perfectly lined up. At a shop, you first have to have a near-perfectly level space that's also big enough with no obstructions. Then you have to create points on the floor by using a weighted line dropped from both the front and rear emblems. Then you need a self-leveling, multi-axis, laser level to draw and extend a line from those two points. Then you need to place reflectors at particular heights from particular points off that line. Once everything is placed correctly, then you have to dive deep into the car's computer using a scan tool in order to have the car test the sensors and recalibrate. And then you have to do it all over again for every set of sensors that need to be recalibrated.

    But on the assembly line, you already know exactly where the car is at any moment because it's fixed to the line. That allows you to have fixed reflectors. And there are likely shortcuts in the computer systems to allow the assembly line computer to directly tell the car computer to calibrate the sensors. And since each assembly line only makes one type of vehicle, the fixed reflectors can have a limited number of heights that they can be automatically set to based on the vehicle's option package. I'm guessing the Prius line only needs two settings; one for the 17" wheels and one for 19".

    But at a shop, every single vehicle they work on is going to need a different set of lengths, widths, and heights. And there's no way to be accurate enough while driving the vehicle in, so the reflectors must be adjusted to the vehicle and not the other way around. OTOH, all this fiddly work has opened the door for specialized shops. There are many ways to speed up the process if you have a custom-built space and dedicated equipment for the job. But that's an investment many(most?) dealerships can't justify.

    The more I look into this, the more I think I would take a non-insurance car to a specialized ADAS shop rather than a dealership to perform a recalibration(assuming there's a good one in my area). I could easily be wrong, but I bet an ADAS shop could do better work for half the price or less versus a dealership.
     
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    I'll give the update on the situation now. I took it to a professional ADAS shop, they review it, did some calibration on the front sensor, but then they noticed a weird steering wheel code
    X0455: Steering Angle Sensor Wrong Installation​
    Interestingly I found a Yaris guide with the same code that gave a description of possible fixes, which I did. Potentially the clockspring sensor was rotated incorrectly on installation
    Toyota Yaris - Steering Angle Sensor Wrong Installation (X0455) - Vehicle Stability Control System

    So I will bring it back to the shop and see what they can do next with this.

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    Let me know if it ends up being part # 864A1-47031 !

    I didn't comment on this thread earlier as my dash wasn't nearly as lit up as yours. I had lane assist and lane keeping assist that just went into error. No engine code or CEL on the dash. Very generic code on a bluetooth OBD reader. Heated steering wheel also quit. They called it the "steering wheel ECU". 1.3h. It's been fine since but a really weird error. Mine was done under warranty but it's sounding a bit like it could be similar.
     
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    Appreciate that, I will definitely give you the full update.
    864A1-47031

    Since I was spending a lot of money on shop diagnosis, I decided it would be a wise investment to get a quality OBD2 reader that could handle the Gen 5 Prius. I ended up getting this mode from Amazon which claims it specializes in Toyota/Lexus

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    So I ran some testing today, and it show ALL DIAGNOSES were fine (no error codes at all). So I suspect its something deeper in sensor calibration or something like that, which unfortunately may not be explicitly shown as "error codes" on this scanner. Here are some possibly weird things I noticed? Steering angle signal shows "666 degrees" approximately with the wheel and tires straight ahead, however the Steering Angle Value correctly shows 0 degrees. So I am a bit confused here, my next step is to try the actual Toyota Techstream, but possibly this will show more info and more error codes that this Launch reader is not showing. Hopefully by weekend I will be able to do so, and definitely will post all results and info here :D

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    Here's a video that includes the clock spring(spiral cable assembly) and the steering angle sensor.

    Go to about 23:00 for the start of the spiral cable work and the things that can go wrong when working around it.

     
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    interesting video, thanks for sending that. I was able to take off the wheel and inspect the clockspring 2 days ago, I wasn't able to see the "red marker" that he mentions, and I even took some time and spun it around several times before returning to the original configuration. Does anyone know if this "red marker" is still used for alignment in the 2023 Toyota models? because this video was from 2010, so it seems likely they changed the part since then and it may not use the same conventions? Because I definitely did not see anything red through the windows of the clockspring thing.
     
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    Apparently there are two styles of Toyota spiral cables when it comes to calibration.

    I'm attaching the instructions on how to inspect and install the spiral cable assembly.
     
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    thanks so much! I will take it apart over the weekend again and get some pictures and verify it matches up with your document! this should help a lot :D
     
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    Here is the update now. I was able to use the scanner tool (didn't show any errors) and Toyota TIS Techstream software which showed the steering angle sensor incorrect installation from before. So I disassembled the steering assembly to inspect the spiral cable assembly, and it doesn't even look like the pictures I have from the Toyota repair manual. The manual shows the "window" around the 9 O Clock angle, and mine has it on the 5 O Clock angle. So something is really strange here. I need to remove this completely and inspect to make sure its the proper part #, because its possible the shop installed the incorrect part on replacing the airbag?! It seem to fit perfectly with the cables however, so I am a bit confused.

    So I need to remove it and do further inspections :( Or possibly the sensor was installed incorrectly onto the assembly? upload_2024-9-21_19-10-14.jpeg upload_2024-9-21_19-10-28.jpeg
     
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    ok, update on this. I have spent about 5 hours working on it in the past few days, and also having access to Toyota Techstream software now. I completely removed the spiral assembly multiple times, readjusted it and then reinstalled it.

    I am fairly confident that its related to the Steering Position Sensor error code X0455. I was able to "clear" this code out one time, so everything reset, and all the ADAS messages completely disappeared and it seemed to function properly for a few minutes, until the X0455 code kicked back in again, which triggered all the other ADAS warnings to come on. So apparently these ADAS systems (Cruise Control, Lane Assist) are highly dependent on the steering wheel angle position sensor functioning correctly. So if there is an error message with this, it will disable all the ADAS systems as a result also which was giving all the warning lights.

    So as of now, I am just focusing on diagnosing and fixing this X0455 "Steering angle sensor wrong installation" issue, which is triggering all the other warnings . Its either the sensor itself that is bad, or some of the cabling attaching to it. I probably will buy a new replacement sensor now and see if that solves the issue, and if so then case closed.

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    It sucks, but make sure you buy an OEM one from Toyota.

    You also need to decide if you want to buy just the sensor or the whole spiral cable assembly(which I'm pretty sure comes with the sensor). There are a lot of warnings in those documents about how the spiral cable can be damaged if it's spun or handled improperly, and yours has been in and out and manipulated quite a bit.

    From my research, here are the three part numbers with prices from Lewis Toyota:
    84308-60060 - $265.25 - Spiral Cable (Spiral Cable Set with Sensor Lock Pin)
    8924B-47020 - $323.82 - Steering Sensor (Sensor, Steering W/Lock Pin)
    84307-47120 - $439.65 - Spiral Cable + Steering Sensor (Cable Sub-Assy, Spiral W/Sensor)

    Spiral Cable Set with Sensor Lock Pin #84308-60060 | Autoparts.toyota.com
    Sensor, Steerig W/Lock Pin
    Cable Sub-Assy, Spiral W/Sensor


    (I choose Lewis because they're the closest online parts dealership to me that is 31% off MSRP and has free shipping on orders over $75. There very well may be dealerships closer to you that have the same prices.)