Brake Fluid Pressure Not Building after Service

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  1. Omar Haddad

    Omar Haddad Junior Member

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    Hi everyone,

    I just finished replacing my front driver-side brakes (both pads and rotors), and I am pumping the brakes to build up pressure, but for some reason pressure is not building. The pedal has somewhat of a resistance, but not as much as before.

    It is my first time servicing my own brakes. Before removing the caliper, I leveraged it all the way to compress the piston, so when I finished, it was not necessary to compress the caliper piston. I simply placed the caliper over the rotor and the bracket. It fit perfectly, so I just screwed the bolts in. Everything worked just fine.

    I applied caliper grease to the caliper pins, but when I screwed the bolts in, the pins were not spinning. This was comfortable to put the screws in, of course, but I am not sure whether the lack of spinning means I haven't applied enough grease. The pins were covered in grease throughout, I thought.

    I also removed the cap of the brake fluid reservoir before starting. I put it back on, and the level is above the max.

    Any ideas why the pressure night not be building?

    Thank you

    EDIT:

    I put it on drive, and I can stop it. It works. But it is making a bit of noise when I push the brake, like an old door in an old house in those horror movies.

    EDIT 2:

    I took it for a test drive. It works. Now I'm just dealing with this noise.

    Thank you
     
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    IMHO; you've somehow FUBAR'ed the job. Have a friend that's done a few of these take a look at it or take it to a tire & brake shop to get it repaired properly.
    We can't see what you did and we're assuming that you didn't FORCE anything back together; so we don't know what to say. The slide pins don't need to spin; they just need to pivot so that's there's equal force on both the inside and outside rotor surfaces. The inside and outside pads will wear relatively evenly if working properly. If not, the piston side pad will wear a lot faster.

    Good Luck......
     
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    You didn't do the front passenger-side brakes? It's best to do in pairs, both fronts or rears.

    When pushing back the piston, did you used something to cover the full face of the piston? They're plastic, somewhat fragile.

    My drill with brakes:

    disconnection 12 volt neg cable
    pull calipers off rotors
    If replacing pads, push back the caliper pistons
    Clean everything, lube and reassemble
    push brake pedal multiple times to firm up pedal
    connect 12 volt neg cable

    It's not unusual for caliper pins to not rotate. when tightening bolt on their ends. They should though be able to rotate and move in/out, gripping with your fingers. The repair manual suggests to put a 17 mm wrench on them while torquing the bolt, to prevent them possibly turning. It takes a slim one, not necessarily stamped-steel thin, but quite thin.
     
  4. Omar Haddad

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    I wanted to do them one at a time precisely because it is my first time. I'm going to do the passenger side one next

    I'm not sure I completely understand your question, but I never covered the piston with anything. Before removing the caliper, I inserted a flathead screwdriver between the caliper and the outer side of the rotor, I leveraged it, and the piston got compressed. I could see the pins going into the tubes and pressing against the rubber boots. When the time came to put the caliper back there was no need to compress the piston. It fit right in. I had the cube tool ready, but there was no need for it, or for a C-clamp.

    It's fine. Apparently the pressure was enough, or more similar to what it was before the job than I had thought. I took it for a test drive, and the brakes are working. Now I do have this noise, though, like an old door in a haunted house, when I push the brakes, unless I push very soft.

    Awesome, thanks for that.
     
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    That sounds ok; the entire pad backing plate would be pressing on the piston face. The piston is plastic (phenolic IIRC), and what you want avoid is a concentrated load at just a small zone of its circumference, that can crack it.
     
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    Got you. Thank you very much for that. I'm having trouble now with the passenger side caliper, because one of the pins is stuck (Also see the rubber boot is broken). As a result I can't compress the piston before removing the caliper, so I'll have to use a tool when putting it back on. I'll put something between the tool and the piston. Anything in particular that could be best to use?

    A piece of wood maybe...
     
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    Yup, a scrap of plywood and large C-clamp works.
     
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