SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

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  1. frodoz737

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    ..and everyone forgets just how fast this bug mutated and became non-lethal...to the weak and elderly. What mutation are we on now? Even "St. Fauci" and one of our "well read" experts in here proclaimed this would happen. Pharma/Medicine/Science has yet to provide a cure, prophylactic, reduction of symptoms or practical way to stop the spread SARS-CoV-2 and any of it's variants outside of BL4 isolation.

    We did our part because of the scare psyops and job mandates...and I stand by my view. BTW...one of those who were in power during this who locked up and isolated all the old folks in their final residence...and forced masks...now says that it wrong for folks to wear masks. Again...for political reasons.
     
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    non lethal to the weak and elderly? i don't think so:story
     
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    Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong says he had a tested treatment that proved to cure COVID in lab rats in March 2020 but got banned from the US medical community. He then went to his native South Africa and found it also worked to prevent infection.
    Fauci & The US agenda was to force mRNA vaccines and nothing else.
    https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-show-patrick-soon
     
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    ah, tucker carlson, must be true. why did fox fire him?
     
  5. frodoz737

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    Believe what you will. SARS-CoV-2 is still here and people are still getting it. It's just not as lethal to the elderly and weak...because it mutated...and continues to mutate. My wording could have been better...but those facts remain.
     
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    good, you fixed non lethal to not as lethal, i agree. we might still argue 'quickly'.
    and also at the cost of how many deaths
     
  7. ChapmanF

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    and what, i wonder, is the proportion of unvaccinated among the elderly and weak now finding it not as lethal
     
  8. tochatihu

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    Patrick Soon-Shiong vaccine early trials were funded by Operation warp speed

    https://www.science.org/content/article/operation-warp-speed-selects-billionaire-scientist-s-covid-19-vaccine-monkey-tests

    How the decision was made to move operations to South Africa are unclear to me, but "banned" may not be appropriate description.

    Anyway that vaccine was produced in South Africa, and used in treatments. It is an adenovirus vector vaccine, as are AstraZeneca/Oxford University, Johnson & Johnson's Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine, and Sputnik V. I would not conclude that "big Pharma' excludes adenovirus vector vaccines.

    Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna are mRNA vaccines, and Novavax is an injection of the ‘spike’ protein. These are the 3 US vaccines that I recall. I would not conclude that US went 100% to mRNA only.
     
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    He did not fit into their corporate narrative and is now able to freely express himself.
     
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    What is sad is how "tribalism" of our species so often abuses and fantisizes about our biodiversity. For example, skin melanin levels, nasal structures, or eye lid skin shapes.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    That's the original reason I stopped getting flu shots. When I lived with my parents I regularly got to see a GP who was a true believer in vaccinations. I specifically remember two times I got a flu vaccination, followed by several weeks of having the flu. And the smallpox vaccination that my allergist said to avoid, but the GP administered anyway. Week long major swelling of my arm.

    When I got out on my own, I just never visited a GP who sold vaccinations. DIdn't refuse them, just didn't go where they were sold.
    Still got sick occasionally, but never as bad as when I got a flu shot. I used to think it was just me, but now there a lot of other people who've spoken up.

    Same deal on the covid vaccinations. The only time a credentialed MD spoke to me about the vaccinations he said they were a problem. He's an anti-aging specialist I won't name to protect the guilty...

    I certainly don't trust Dr. Dolly Parton for my medical advise.
     
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    Over decades I have had the good fortune to associate with some extremely clever people. They were not, uniformly, white ubermenschen. More importantly they did not suppose that cleverness is especially in any visible subset of humans. To know that I value just as highly as all the science that big brains have taken the time to help me see.
     
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    "YOU ARE NOT WHITE OR BLACK! YOU ARE GREEN!"
    - Marine drill instructor, San Diego, February 1971.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Close one door and another opens up:


    As RFK Jr slams his door on vaccines, medical societies and journals open up.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    The first vaccine the new board should work on is gardasil . It is recommended to protect sexually active 9 year old boys from uterine cancer. That's going to be a hard one to defend. Am I missing something?

    When I was a 9 year old in the 5th grade the girls all had to go to a meeting. The boys all stayed in class wondering what it was all about. None of the girls would talk about whatever it. Some of them acted like they'd seen a ghost. Great mystery.

    Are boys given any alternatives to gardasil? Are they told what it is for?

    Guess I've lived a protected life. Nobody in my high school got pregnant. At least as far as I could tell. There was the time leaving a full school meeting where this girl exclaimed for everyone to hear that "My mother must be a virgin". Don't remember what the meeting was about, but one of her classmates made some wild claim.
     
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    In a word, yes.
     
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    Gardasil vs. HPV.

    HPV causes cancer of uterus (and maybe other adjacent tissues), which only ladyfolk have. Vaccinating males is to prevent/substantially lessen possibility that they can transfer HPV to them. Even offering gardasil to males implies that virus can survive or develop in some male tissues. It is interesting, but not something I have studied.

    Vaccinating females is to prevent/substantially lessen possibility that they can grow this virus in their ladyparts.
     
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    I did just now drop in on CDC.gov and saw that several HPV pages now 'go 404'. No particular conclusions can be drawn from that.
     
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    Is web.archive.org accessible where you are? It might have some of the 404'd .gov pages.

    The wikipedia article on Gardasil suggests that there are numerous strains of HPV and that they are associated with a variety of lesions in ladyparts, and in gentlemanparts if that word may be allowed, and in parts pretty much everybody has got.

    Also suggests it isn't necessary to go find sexually active 9-year-olds to administer it to, because it promotes just as strong an immune response when administered to sexually-inactive individuals of the same age.
     
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    #7160 ETC(SS), Jun 24, 2025 at 6:24 AM
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