Wrapping stock intake with tinfoil bubble and then heat resistant wrap?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by h1ph0panonymous, Jul 11, 2025 at 3:11 AM.

  1. Brian1954

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    The use of the term redline is for the internal combustion engine. It makes no difference if the car is non-hybrid versus a hybrid vehicle.
     
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    So just gas light away any thermal effects caused by going over +2200 RPM on a Prius because there is no established redline on the Prius. Got it, any other pedantic tangents you’d like to go over or would you like to discuss the actualities of the heat soaking in discussing?
     
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    I am just here for the entertainment factor. I do not have anything better to do at the moment.

    FYI, there is a redline for the Prius, but you can not rev the engine that high because the ECM limits the rpm before you get to redline. So, the actual redline of the Prius engine is not an issue that anyone should be concerned with unless you can override the firmware in the ECM.
     
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    Redline a Prius that has a fixed Planetary transmission? How is that even possible? Or do you just like to pretend?
     
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    His definition of redline is much different than most other people's definition of redline.
     
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    The fan can't rob the coolant of heat unless the coolant is actually flowing through the radiator.

    When the engine is warming up from a cold start in winter, there's no coolant flow through the radiator. That's literally the thermostat's job: It prevents coolant flow through the radiator until there's enough heat to be worth dumping some via airflow, whether it be natural or forced.

    If your thermostat is working correctly, no additional amount of extra fan usage will matter.

    You can get hood scoop kits from places like Summit racing.
     
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    I’ve already established what I mean by redlining on a Prius, anything over +2200 RPM which increases the heat of the engine beyond 188 degrees.
     
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    No what I meant was if there are two fans blowing the second I start the car on in winter it will take longer to warm up because those fans are blowing low temperature air from outside to the inside of the engine bay. We don’t want that in the winter.

    I don’t want a scoop that you need to create an opening in the hood for, just one that goes more towards the grill.
     
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    Since the system shuts off the engine water pump immediately with the engine, that logic is far more likely to cause heat soaking. Better redesign the water pump control circuit.

    Just when I thought we were dealing with a challenged mind we get "pedantry" twice.
     
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    Yeah no you don’t understand then how insulation works.
     
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    ????? For a Gen 3 Prius ????

    The electric engine water pump does not turn off when the engine stops at a red light.
     
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    You'd almost think with the number of knowledgeable Prius forum members here, any special Prius-related use of 'redline' would have been more visibly used prior to you posting about it.

    Even so, I would wonder why the community would not have coined some other term, rather than overloading an already-existing one with an already-known, different meaning?
     
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    I’m not a term maker and try to use words already existing to help better understand what I’m discussing but it’s common sense that anything over 2200 RPM is going to give 2-4 degrees of engine bay heat to deal with higher than the average 188 most Prius’s in the summer should be sitting at during the majority of the drive.

    Back to the point of the post, I’m going to wrap the intake to slightly isolate it from the DIRECT thermal radiation coming from the engine.
     
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    Entirely incorrect... 188 is the bottom end of normal operating temperature and when it comes to you're gas engine RPM the maximum engine efficiency in terms of horsepower, torque and fuel savings at freeway speed (especially mountain climbing) is 3500rpm, which is a common standard, which is why phone apps that monitor Prius engine RPM light up green at precisely 3500 RPM.

    Next time you go on a long drive in mountains on the same route do one at 3500rpm as often as possible and the other drive the same dumb low MPG way you've been doing it and check your overall MPG to realize who's right and who's wrong.

    Also I suspect you aren't aware of the pulse and glide driving technique to maximize MPG but there's plenty of articles on here about this type of hypermiling that you'l be excited to learn about once you realize how much it boosts your MPG.
     
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    No one is talking about MPG dummy.


    We are talking about preventing higher than average heat soaking temperatures at idle.
     
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    Have you ever compared how cool these engines run compared to other hybrids or regular cars? You do realize that the wear and tear from "heat soaking" your engine on a Prius is less than 1/2 of harm it would cause on a regular car without an electric motor? And most of all speaking of being a "dummy" or rather being downright stupid:

    "The redline is the maximum engine speed at which an internal combustion engine or traction motor and its components are designed to operate without causing damage to the components themselves or other parts of the engine.[1] The redline of an engine depends on various factors such as stroke, mass of the components, displacement, composition of components, and balance of components." Redline - Wikipedia

    PS: I'm clicking the ignore button on your profile so I never again see this level of stupid on PriusChat again!
     
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    To decrease thermal related wear of anything inside the engine in the long run.
     
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    Because a vehicle capable of going 300K to 500K miles with nothing more than a few sets of spark plugs and filters and oil changes isn't good enough for someone who probably wears a tin foil hat and needs to drive from where he lives in the basement in his mom's house to the grocery store once a week?