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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I'm a great fan of Sandy Munro and this is why:
    - YouTube

    It also explains why he isn't invited as often as he should be.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    i have to say, i'm pleasantly surprised with the design and build of my '23 chevy
     
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    mikefocke Prius v Three 2012, Avalon 2011

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    Warning...over an hour.

    And mostly anti government and anti intellectual.

    Not that he isn't right.

    I can't memorize, but give me a problem and my brain just explodes. I graduated from college after studying the classics. But my career (and I stumbled into it out of curiosity) was in bits and bytes and interfaces. I found my fit.
    But then maybe he is an old know it all, just as I am.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Gosh I'm glad you posted. After the recent storms in your area, I was wondering how you' all were doing.

    He had some rough spots with the government and I spent four years in the Marines which took awhile to recover. As for education, my favorites were math and vocational tech electronics. I took the "advanced math" and "physics" classes and soon realized I could have taught them better than the designated teacher. The head of the math department forbid us from forming a calculus self-study group. <GERRRR>

    It would have been better if instead of going to college, I had spent several years becoming a journeyman electrician. Then I could have paid my own way through college and never looked back.

    In College, I got an "F" in my first programming course, Fortran, even though I completed every homework assignment. Then I realized the grade came from two tests, the mid-term and the final. When I retook it, I read the first half of the Fortran manual before the mid-term. Then read the last half before the final and got an "A". I never considered software to be anything but a 'game of chess.'

    The Marines decided I was a computer operator which was OK because of the air conditioning and time to study college courses at the local universities and extensions. But within one year after getting out, I was invited to join our IBM mainframe system programming group (COMNET a computer service company on McArthur Blvd, DC.)

    The first year I learned something new every 30 seconds. The second year, it slowed down to 90 seconds. And then management changed and a typical Masters of Business Administration type was put in charge.

    On the first day, he showed an inverted pyramid with us individuals on the top and he was apex at the bottom. My first thought, "That is unusable, fall down, and go boom." Three months later, I was out the door on to my next job and never looked back.

    Sandy rants about closed minded, MBA type, intellectuals who can't handle technology but instead pester those of us who can. I share his attitude which was first formed in the Marines and later re-enforced within every company I worked in. I became adept at realizing when it was time to go and left when I wanted. So 10 years in the Washington DC area and later I tricked my wife to moving to Huntsville AL where I reside today.

    Someday, I'll drive over and we can swap war stories about our careers. In many respects, Sandy's rants match what I found to be true.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    I didn't watch the video, but I can say that I'm rather discouraged with the car selection the USA has and am quite jealous of other countries that have some pretty neat cars. I just got back from abroad and saw lots of neat Chinese vehicles, as well as others. Our taxi driver drove a Renault Kangoo, which I thought was a pretty neat design.

    Here in the States everything is the exact same cookie-cut copy repeated over and over again. You got your massive pickups, your massive SUVs, your crossovers and a couple of sedans, and 2, maybe 3 minivans. That's really all that's available over here. And the diversity in technology doesn't seem that great either, gasoline, gasoline hybrid and a seemingly blatant attempt to kill EVs. And everything now needs a touchscreen that you got to cover with your hand to see it in sunny areas like where I live.
     
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    they build what sells. different cultures have different tastes, requirements, economics, and etc.
    that's what makes traveling so interesting, although the world today is much more homogenized then even when i started around 1970. i used to drool over european car design, and they drooled over ours :cool:
     
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    Had a VOIP system that inside the house was the same as the old landline days. Near lightening strike took out 7 upstairs phones and the wiring. Oddly the downstairs TV and Internet and the 3 phones there were fine once unhooked were fine so we didn't realize the problem until a few days later when we went to make an outgoing. Bought new phones and the cable company replaced their modem and functionally we are fine.

    A tornado hit just north of Sanford and threw debris 1k feet into the air and across a major road, Destroyed several private planes at the Raleigh Executive Airport which is really closer to Sanford.

    Now going through a several week period where we have a storm every night. Amazing to see 5" per hour rains and watch the creeks fill up, hope the dams hold etc. I live on a pond and the dam for it is maybe 100 yards from my backyard.

    I have a different perspective having known many politicians, those that work in their offices and many folk that are just very senior government types (like senior civil service rank). Yes org structure had gotten a bit bloated. (IMHO somewhat due to the limits of the politician imposed pay structure and the Civil Service Rules. But the alternative was what we are seeing now, the politicization of the working ranks of the government. A President should appoint 2-3 levels down and not 8 like Nixon and Trump tried to do. 400+ presidential appointments.)

    I put the problems squarely on the political types who are personally power hungry. Many have the morals of a tomcat. Both sides if the aisle. Oh for the person who runs, wins, votes his convictions and then departs and lets the next guy see if his ideas work any better. To run now you have to be too beholden to the fund raisers. I recall a congresscritter speaking to a meeting of our local senior managers and he described how much money he had to raise every day in order to run again. He had to scuttle from the floor of congress across to a private building and use the phones there. Read a bill ...who has the time now ... which is how the lobbyists got to draft all the language in the bills.

    And then the civil servant types get stuck with the ridiculous job of implementing the vague policy that hasn't been well thought out beforehand. Used to be you'd see two congresscritters from opposite parties having lunch or more likely drinks at one of the local establishments. At one time my wife used a hairdresser that had an office in the basement of the Capital via a housemate that worked for her home state representative. The stories I'd hear ....
     
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    I think the US is the only place with an independent dealer system protected from competition by law. What they want sell without the consumer option of directly going to the manufacturer skews the market. Got about the same situation with cell phone options cause it is more about what the telecoms want, not the consumer.
     
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    This is the real reason they wanted the chicken tax, to get rid of these:
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    The car market is lame, and the economy makes it hard to justify buying a car. It's torture at this point, that you either live like an indigent because you don't have a car or you live like an indigent because you do.
     
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