Just need to vent...

Commercial ones are more robust, and have the tighter fit to not need replacing regularly. Might also save a tiny bit of electricity. Harder to get the plug in, but you won't have to worry about a loose contact.

 

Does yours leak out if not lying flat? Mine does. And then my wife is constantly reorganizing the tool basket in the car, and keeps putting the Black Jack box in vertically. So it's getting pretty slimy in there.

 

One pet peeve of mine is how cars these days have such a cluttered area around the driver, especially that space hogging center console.

Now I know that some newer Toyotas are getting a "bridge" center console with space under it. But as an amateur radio operator, I want space to be able to install my radio heads.

Right now I have a flexing bar attatched to the base of the driver's seat up to my HF radio contol head. But it really limits the leg room up there as my knee always hits it.

Some Teslas, and the ID.Buzz apparently have more spartan front interiors, but then have glass roofs that won't work well for what I'm doing. Are there any modern cars out there that don't have a center console yet have a metal roof so I can keep an eye on their used prices?

 

Our 2016 model S had a metal roof. It was the last year before they switched.



Carfax shows a 60kWh version w/ 72K miles going for under $16K. The 60kWh models can be software upgraded to 70kWh too.
Not too shabby.
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Nice! That would be a car I'd want to buy as long as I'm not too afraid of it being too expensive to repair if something did need fixing.

 

yeah, i'd be really afraid unless i was jay leno

 

½ of those 2016s had transferable supercharging too. Haven't had that model in 2016 I must say you ain't going to get the latest and greatest charge speeds that do nowadays was a measly 60 kwh traction pack. The upside, having a 10K wh buffer means it doesn't suffer from degradation like many of the others.

 

Charge speeds don't concern me that much. What car for $15,000 has noticeably better charging speeds? The charging speeds of our 2013 Nissan Leaf SL that we had was sufficient, even at mostly L2 and sometimes L1 speeds. What wasn't was the range, especially in the winter.

The price and longevity are of most concern to me. I guess that's why I bought a Toyota. It might be a while before I actually need another car, although my boys are starting to look for their first car.