SARS-CoV-2 Coronavirus (COVID-19)

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  1. tochatihu

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    Just today this matter rises again:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5415212-rand-paul-anthony-fauci-covid-19-pardon/

    And I am unsure how to square this with the actual Constitutional Clause, but that is for Senator Paul to do.

    Judicial sentiment seems to be that pardons can be reversed by later aPresident, if the former is impeached. I take that to mean impeached and convicted. Otherwise, Whoa Nelly, The twice impeached 45 would have a large can of worms awaiting later opening.
     
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    You'll have to be more specific with dates. What I remember about COVID-19:

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    "Death" is a hard symptom to "NOT having any covid symptoms."

    Bob Wilson
     
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    The vertical axis must have been labelled in source material, but is not here. Consider your hand slapped. Whichever hand dogs have not chewed on recently.
     
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    What a joy it would be to finally set this aside, But no.

    I bring here information following @ColoradoBoo post in the smaller FHOP politics section. This is an important topic, and I move discussion here where more may view it. I assume he will not object.

    “Top Epidemiologist Sounds Alarm: mRNA 'Vaccination' Is 'Chemical Lobotomy' - Slay News”

    Chemical Lobotomy is a frisky phrase. Four publications were included and I look at them below. Initial comments in quotes are from @ColoradoBoo.

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    Roh et al’s study of 558,017 Koreans found that mRNA shots increase …”

    Roh et al. 2024, DOI: 10.1093/qjmed/hcae103

    There were 191,970 mRNA vaccinated and 37,687 unvaccinated. Mild cognitive impairment (MCI) was diagnosed in 83 per 100,000 vaccinated and 25 per 100,000 unvaccinated. Alzheimer’s disease (AD) was diagnosed in 76 per 100,000 vaccinated and 51 per 100,000 unvaccinated. Diagnoses were performed both before and after vaccination (which is a very good thing). In prior diagnoses, 21.9% of mRNA group had MCI and 12.8% of unvaccinated group did. As those percentages are unequal, the groups could have been unequal in susceptibility to MCI, and this study design could not reveal that. In prior diagnoses, 14.6 %of mRNA group had AD and 22.3% of unvaccinated group did. As those percentages are unequal, the groups could have been unequal in susceptibility to AD, and this study design could not reveal that.

    However,this dataset also could allow examination of (smaller) populations matched in these percentages between vax groups. Anyone interested in drawing robust conclusions from this dataset could suggest that to Roh et al. There is no evidence in text that they plan to do so.

    Authors state awareness of vaccination benefits in this quote:

    “Overall, the beneficial effects of COVID-19 vaccination, which have clearly improved mortality and morbidity associated with COVID-19, cannot be overlooked.2–4 This study provides preliminary evidence of a potential association between COVID-19 vaccination and increased incidence of MCI and AD.”

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    “a study by Salmaggi et al.
    The study of 8,821,812 Italians found that Covid “vaccination” increased the risk of several serious neurological diseases.”

    Salmaggi et al.2025, doi: 10.1007/s10072-024-07870-5

    After previous essay, readers may be relieved that I lack immediate access to Salmaggi et al. 2025. I shall email them requesting full text, but for now, I offer this quote:

    “Our data suggest that the increased risk of non-inflammatory CNS disorders following COVID-19 vaccination is lower than the risk conferred by COVID-19 infection …”

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    “Another study by Kim et al found among 2,027,353 South Koreans found similar spikes.
    The study found that Covid mRNA injections increased the risk of multiple psychiatric disorders …”

    Kim et al. 2024, https://doi.org/10.1038/s41380-024-02627-0

    This comparison of psychiatric adverse events following COVID-19 vaccination put its mRNA results in Supplementary Table 2. After 3 months, cumulative (new) incidence of depression and anxiety, sleep and sexual disorders were higher in mRNA-vaccinated than in unvaccinated groups. Cumulative (new) incidence were lower for Schizophrenia, bipolar and eating disorders in mRNA-vaccinated groups. Main text Table 2 shows those same patterns for all vaccination types (mRNA not singled out), so this study does not provide evidence that any particular psychiatric adverse effects are attributable to mRNA vaccines. That vaccination might confer benefits against some psychiatric adverse effects seems odd for an article selected as evidence for mRNA harm.

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    “The most probable mechanism behind this damage is likely toxic Spike protein accumulation and persistence in the skull-meninges-brain axis, Hulscher explains. He says this is evidenced by Rong et al.”

    Rong et al., 2024, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.chom.2024.11.007

    Showed spike proteins were found higher in brains of people who died from SARS-CoV-2 infections. Live people who did or did not receive COVID vaccine cannot be killed, nor their brains parted out. We have ethics. The word “vaccine” appears in this study only in regard to mice (that can be ethically killed). This study provides no evidence that any COVID vaccines increase cerebral spike proteins in humans. Oh, bother.

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    These 4 studies highlighted by Hulscher came from among over 300 other studies that are in the Spike Protein Pathogenicity Research Library. I can only conclude that these were chosen as the most lurid/sipnnable about mRNA vaccine risks. I have no plan to examine the other 396 studies, but if any readers here do, I will shower you with ‘likes’!

    Harm/benefit comparisons from all global health interventions suit our discussions. Motivated (?) spins rank lower.
     
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    the great thing about those studies and conclusions is that someone on the dark web does all the heavy lifting for the gullible conspiracy theorists to spread everywhere they touch social media, without actually understanding, or doing any of the heavy lifting themselves.
     
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    My studies show/ed that most everyone that got the shots...mandatory or voluntarily..still got the new flu. They did not prevent, cure, or stop the spread. The early version/s of this bug hit hard, it progressively mutated to more benign variants...as predicted...and most deaths occurred among the weak and elderly. Also...if one died of "anything else" and were tested positive...their death was counted as a COVID death. We received the shots and followed the rules at home, work and out in the world...and those are my final conclusions.

    Lastly...why did some without the shots not catch this bug?
     
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    Are you saying there's some kind of rule that mutations have a direction?
     
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    I didn't predict it...that's what science said. Ask our Dirt Doctor/Professor from China. I'm sure he can find some "peer reviewed" study for you. FTR...my very healthy adult Son just got over his 5th bout with COVID and he works for .gov requiring he follow all "guidelines" and "mandates".
     
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    "mutations have a direction?" They probably do. A frameshift or nucleotide error in replication could not lead to just any transcription product down the road. So, there is some subsetting going on.

    Beyond that, stabilizing a mutation in a population totally has direction. In simple terms, it works or it doesn't. A Pillar of Darwinism. The Big D's books on this subject were not peer-reviewed (tee hee) but his journal publications were.
     
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    still waiting for his faithful to work entropy into Darwinism

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    Does that seem like a gap? Biota ingest food with high-energy bonds and release other compounds with lower-energy bonds. This gives them enthalpy to work with, and they do. They make a variety of low-entropy structures and perform a variety of low-entropy activities. All the while increasing overall entropy of their environments. Exhaled CO2 is one of the 'receipts' so to speak.

    Photosynthesis makes compounds with high-energy bonds, so it looks closer to magic than what the rest of us do. Harvesting light energy and using it for this is, like, wow. But even there, collected photons have high energy per each. That represents a lot of order, AKA negentropy. Photons with much lower energy per each are released. All the while increasing overall entropy of their environments.

    I assure readers that thermodynamicists have not been sitting on their hands in these matters. More might be hoped for, from educators lettin' y'all in on the fun. But that is another topic.
     
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