On some sites I read that the battery of a Prius Prime, and those of other EVs and plug in hybrids as well, will have longest life if charged only to 85% and run down only to 25%. From other readings I get the impression that the batteries basically only have so many charge cycles in them before exhaustion. Does anyone know which is true? A pattern of keeping the battery between 25-85% charged will increase the number of charges compared with a policy of running it to 0% and then charging to 100%. I can't tell which pattern of charging is best if one wants long battery life. Thanks for any factual input.
welcome! for a plug in prius, toyota has already taken care of that for you. what you see for charge level on the dash is only the percent charge available for use. toyota has incorporated top and bottom end buffers, so feel free to charge away, these are very robust and long lasting batteries. nothing you can do will lengthen or shorten the battery life or performance. for all electric vehicles, 100% of the battery is used to get the most range for the dollar. to help counter that, most have liquid heating and cooling to preserve battery life and charge/discharge effectiveness. when 100% charge is not needed, 80% is a good rule of thumb. and the same goes for the bottom end. plus, you don't want to be searching for a charger with only a few miles left.
100% dashboard is actually 85% true. This video I captured is a drive of the full EV capacity with an ODB-II app to show the difference. What Toyota shows you is just the usable portion of the battery-pack. There's a buffer at both ends for longevity, as well as some capacity saved for hybrid driving after EV depletion.
I would charge it to full whenever you need to inorder to stop the ICE from turning on. When you read that a battery only lasts a certain number of charge cycles, that is different than the number of times you plug the car in. A cycle is going from 0-100%. If you charge it from 25% to 75% two times, that is one charge cycle, not two cycles. As mentioned by others, charging from 0% to 100% is actually only charging from 15% to 85%, so it is never truely being 100% charged regardless. However, keeping the battery as close to 50% as reasonably possible should prevent battery degradation. Thus charging from 25% to 85% may keep your range from dropping as much when the car is old with a lot of miles, but I don't think the difference is worth it unless it doesn't affect how much gas you use. I have pretty extreme charging habbits and have noticed very acceptable degredation. I charge my battery from close to 0% all the way to 100% right before I leave home. Then I stop midway to work and go for a nice long walk and charge it from ~35% to 80-100% at a free public charger. I will the charge my car at work in the late afternoon from ~35% fully to ~100%. This gets me to work 35 miles away and back without any gas about 6-9 months out of the year. Thus, I estimate I have cycled my battery almost 3,000 times (~84,000 fully EV miles of my 88,500 total miles) and have only degraded it from about 6.1 KWh to 5.7 KWh of useable capacity over almost 5 years. The loss of EV range is barely noticible. In fact, I didn't notice it at all until I got new tires. I think this is about as extreme use as you can get without leaving the battery siting in 100+ degree weather fully charged all of the time for days on end. Now that I think about it, I have pretty much maximized both number of charging sessions and the number of time the battery reaches close to 100% charged (minus the buffer). I wouldn't worry much about either. If your commute is significantly under 25 miles, just charge it to the point you can easily make it home without any gas. If it is close to 25 miles or longer, just charge it to full.
That’s fine. I did that for 3 years on my 2018 Prime. 100% on the 2018 was only 83% true SOC so Toyota has a good too buffer. I don’t know what it is for the Gen 5, but I’d imagine it’s something similar.
it would depend on how long it would stay at 100%, and that would be a personal decision, not something toyota supplies. there are too many variables. and if you ask here, you'll get many different opinions. i haven't read the gen 5 manual, but previous generations, toyota only recommended discharging to hybrid mode for long term storage.
