Featured Nissan motor analysis Munro

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  1. hill

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    One odd thing in the video (from a Munroe source - one who is supposed to know) was the comment how nissan has learned a lot - being available (in so many words) longer than any other. The Leaf came out in 2010. So...... Really? We were driving EV S10s at disney in the 90s. The Tesla roadster came out in 2008. RAV4ev? somewhere around 97. Sold to the public in 2002 - etc. You get the point. Maybe this guy is new.
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    has nissan really learned much? their offerings are still near the bottom of the heap
     
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    Nissan is the car part of a very big company, maybe they were into the electric stuff in heavy equipment and buses and not the vehicle side. I know all the big trucks that work in pit mining are electric with a big diesel/gen set to power them. The son of our friends who lived next door, did the first dual apprenticeship with one of the big mining companies in plant mechanics and electric motor/generator both maintenance and electrical theory, some 15 yrs ago ..... the idea was to reduce the workforce required so one person could diagnose and fix the problem, rather than one group saying the problem was the other camps issue, nit their problem .....
    By the time he was a 4th yr apprentice, he was already designing better ways to get the two things working together and better modulise them into separate plug and play modules to make routine swap out maintenance possible to overcome the drive it till it stopped system they had prior ..... The whole hybrid and pure electric has been around for a long time, we are only seeing it venture into the small vehicle industry on late, big oil made sure of that .....

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    I think if Nissan had learned a lot they would have a better selling EV platform. They like Toyota and gm have had a lot of time ;-) The leaf was not a good vehicle but it was cheap comparatively. That turned many customers off. Tesla found a way to reduce costs over the years and had induction motors from the beginning.

    The video was too long, so I didn't watch much but it looks like Nissan found a way to make the motor smaller, so its size is similar to a pm motor. That is an incremental change in the right direction but it doesn't seem to overcome other problems with Nissan's eve vs the competion. Hope one day Nissan gets it right, they could just copy the best of bad, lucid, Tesla, and Hyundai. I'm not sure what management is doing.
     
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    by persecuting their fearless leader, the japanese government drove them into bankruptcy
     
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    Oddly, even after experimenting the range and battery problems with our 2013 Leaf, the Wife and I are much more likely to buy a Leaf again instead of a Tesla or any other EV, mainly because of the cost factor.
     
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    Yea - that really WAS bizarre
     
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    Actually, I'm open to a Leaf when the Model 3 dies. But that will hopefully be about 5 years away and we'll have to do a "source selection survey." This assumes at age 80, no one has confiscated my driving license:
    • End of lease Tesla <whatever is efficient> with transfer of Full Self Driving
    • End of lease efficient <other EV>
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    May be the mighty MG will be allowed into the US by then ..... quite a range to choose from .... love my MG4

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    If the MG comes in, so too the Chinese … point, game, set, match. There are some very attractive Chinese EVs.

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