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That’s why Trump is using communism nationalizing industry.

First Intel .gov owned, now defense contractors then it will be everyone else

 

Just to show both sides of an issue how did you feel about this President Biden Program?


Trump Administration Ends Semiconductor Fund Set Up By Biden Government | World News - News18
Lutnick announces $7.4 billion in cuts to Biden-era CHIPS funding dispenser
"In its final days, the Biden administration set up an agreement with Natcast that allowed the entity to receive $7.4 billion from the Commerce Department's National Institute of Standards and Technology "in the form of advance payments," according to the letter. Lutnick said the amount accounted for "virtually all of Natcast's funding," which was expected to last until 2034.
"The Biden administration had no authority to enter into the last-minute agreement with Natcast to cement their illegal arrangement," Lutnick wrote. "The GCCA plainly prohibits agencies from establishing a corporation to act as an agency without specific authorization, and the January 16, 2025, agreement does nothing other than set forth the terms of the Biden Administration's attempt to do just that."
The agreement was executed on Jan. 16, four days before President Donald Trump returned to the White House this year.

"These actions do not just give the appearance of impropriety; they flout federal law," Lutnick asserted"

"Describing Natcast as a "slush fund" and an "illegal, unaccountable, left-wing created fake department," Lutnick said the Commerce Department doesn't recognize the California-based nonprofit group because it was established in violation of federal law.

"Rather than establishing these operations within the Department, however, Biden Administration officials spent significant time, effort, and resources creating an unaccountable, outside entity—Natcast—to administer taxpayer funds," Lutnick wrote to Natcast CEO Deirdre Hanford in a letter."

 

Natcast a bipartisan entity, so Remove a subsidy
And exchange for direct government ownership with politics on the board of directors

tots the same

 

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Ooops - hypocrisy?

 

Natcast was a bipartisan entity that had republicans heavily involved in its creation and day to day operations and it was setup as it was due to conservatives being heavily involved/invested in its formation.

This is similar to the GND that had 75% of conservative representatives having large investments in the affected businesses and said locations of GND “stuff” being in conservative jurisdictions, along with a few R publicly taking credit for said GND jobs

 

Gee I wonder why.

 

Having it both ways.

Write a law
Get benefits from said law
Blame the other guy for the law you wrote
Bitch about your own law

proceed to replace your law with Communism, with one infinitely worse, less effective and more dangerous.

 

Sorry but there was only one party that was trying to destroy the country through communism. That was done through societal destruction vis-a-vis no borders cashless bail - defunding police, trans men in women's sports & globalism - the goals of socialist Klaus Schwab.

 

Is it just me, or do people just use the term Communism as an insult with no thought to the actual meaning.

For an example, last time I checked, Communist countries have historically had closed borders (iron curtain, etc.) not open borders.

 

That's because most of them don't allow their people to leave - because they would never come back. Here, that's not the case. Keeping people out versus keeping people in.

 

That still doesn't prove the term is any more than just an insult.

As for immigration laws, I have no opinion on what the USA should or shouldn't do. All I know is the law given to the Isrealites said: "The immigrant that lives with you shall be the same to you as a native of your own stock, and you shall love him as yourself."

 

Could be argued those countries weren't really communist. Closed borders isn't a tenant of the communism philosophy for one.

 

What obvious BS. Lutnick and project 2025 instead of rolling back subsidies for this bi partisan group, are going full bore socialist. First it was US steel with a golden share, selling to a foreign entity and giving it huge protectionist tarrifs. Why not help the american owed steel companies and manufacturers. It shows the tarrifs failed for US Steel and now the government is taking partial ownership with a foreign entitiy. Then intel who should have never gotten such big subsidies from the chips bill is now favored over better competitors like US based AMD, Samsung, and Taiwan Semiconductor that are actually building productive profitable plants using US workers in the US.

Saying biden bad so trump should be worse is total hypocracy. Chips bill was a great bipartisan bill and now the intel part makes it so much worse. Biden as a measure helped the US economy which at the end of his term was the envy of the world. He did fail in a number of things that could be corrected but trump is taking every bad thing biden did and making it worse. Lutnick is harming the US economy and the jobs numbers show it.

 

...when they're allowed out, anyway.

With the hiring freeze implemented in January and some firings since, the Bureau of Labor Statistics has developed a serious data quality issue.

 

Let's call it an unspoken tenant. The term is somewhat fluid. After all there is video of people trying to get over the Berlin wall not too many decades back -
Photographs of people shot while trying to cross the Berlin Wall at the Berlin Wall memorial Stock Photo - Alamy
& getting shot for their efforts. Similarly to this day in North korea.

China commies have their own brand of hell

Persecution of Uyghurs in China - Wikipedia

 

No, having a closed border doesn't mean you're a communist country, it just means you are taking care of your people over foreigners.
Which makes sense....who wants to come into a country illegally? Sure some are desperate for new jobs and opportunities BUT many have backpacks full of drugs or they are dragging little children to sell them into our human traffickers/sex-slaves network or they are gang members coming over to bring their crap.
The Vatican has had one of the tightest borders and border enforcement in the world for many years and they are hardly communist.
The insane open-border is the main reason Kamala got slaughtered in the election. But kudos to her for being our ONLY politician put on the Presidential ballot without a single vote to be there by members of her own party. (So when Democrats accuse Trump of being a king or a tyrant or anything else non-democratic, they just need to shut the heck up and fix their own broken party.)

 

Not sure why the discussion has gone off the rails into such politics. We do have some of the expected results of the tariffs.

Economic growth has slowed. Producer inflation has increased, now it is ready to accelerate consumer inflation Manufacturing employment has dropped when before the tariffs there were 500,000 open manufacturing positions that companies were planning to fill. Now we are told the tariffs won't show anything good for 2 years, great excuse to lie about the numbers. These were expected things from the tariffs. The voodoo economist Peter Navajo said that they would not be inflationary and create jobs. When asked about his previous failed tariffs, he attacked the economist community and the numbers. Now taxpayers are paying secretary of the treasury to go on Sunday shows and lie about the numbers. Employment has gained in health care, government, and AI. Manufacturing is down in the US other than semiconductors.

 

must be because no one realizes tariffs & Trump are not political

Question that's more apropos is why the thread wasn't started in FHOP in the 1st place. That's on the OP.

As far as using Auto Sales / tariffs as a presidential blamefest, auto sales are worse or better turning on who is buying what - as it's always been. I see a bunch of Fords are doing better than average.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g65277687/auto-sales-q2-2025-winners-losers/
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Think the semiconductor manufacturing in the US is gonna be a smashing success? I don't. Takes fabs but it also takes a culture and a workforce. Every time I see a video of a chip factory I think where in the US could we get that workforce? Even Taiwan isn't having enough babies to sustain their workforce long term. China either but there people can be compelled to work in those conditions..

 

The Times covered this recently, I thought it was a decent read.