Techstream values for battery pack and temps

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by IwasBirchyFirst, Aug 30, 2025 at 11:51 PM.

  1. IwasBirchyFirst

    IwasBirchyFirst Junior Member

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    I'm documenting this battery pack, before I swap it out.
    Blade/cell #7 is obviously lower in voltage that the rest, on this freeze frame from the last P0A80-123 DTC.
    Some of the nearby cells are noticeably lower than the ones on the ends. I wonder if this points to the center of the pack being hotter?

    1) Does anyone have the desired voltage ranges for a Gen3? (I have gathered a lot of docs, but the Hybrid System repair manual section (2010 Prius) doesn't seem to be on Scribd).
    2) What do the gray lines and the orange highlights indicate? (I'll search the TS documentation more thoroughly in a few hours).
    3) What are the desired values for battery temps? These values range from 93.2 to 98.8, which sounds pretty hot to me. I will try again to examine the fan in the morning. I think there's a bolt to undo or a clip that is keeping the vent panel from sliding up.
     

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    The hybrid battery degrades over time, and high temperature will excel the degradation. The center section of the battery pack is usually hotter than the end sections, so the center battery models will fail first. This has happened in your case.

    The P0A80 code is set when the voltage difference between battery blocks becomes too high. The hybrid battery is composed of 28 modules all wired in series. Toyota does not monitor the voltage of each module. Toyota measures the voltages of a set of two modules, which is called a block. That is why you see 14 voltages listed in the Techstream data. So, the voltages shown are the 14 battery blocks (two modules). Six 1.2v cells are wired in series inside of the module case. You physically can not see the cells unless you destroy the module by taking off the plastic case of the module.

    1) The nominal voltage of each cell is 1.2v. Six cells are inside each module. So, the nominal voltage of each module is 6 X 1.2v = 7.2v. The voltage of the cells and modules increases as the state of charge increases. The maximum voltage for a module is about 8.05v when installed in the car. So the battery block voltages will vary from 14.2v to 18.1v.

    2) I do not know what the orange highlights indicate.

    3) 90F to 100F are normal temperatures for the three battery temperature sensors. A hot battery would be in the 125F and higher temperature range.

    The problem with your battery pack appears to be a bad cell in one of the two modules that make up block #7. A cell is 1.2v. A module with a bad cell would be ~1.2v lower than the other modules. If you take the battery pack apart and locate the bad module, then you can replace it with a good used module. This may work to make your car functional again. To do it correctly for the longest life, the battery pack should be reconditioned. The reconditioning process can take a long time to do based on the equipment that you have to do it. Using a grid charge and discharger, it would take about 5 or 6 days. Using a hobby charger and discharger to recondition each module, it will take weeks to months to do the process.
     
    #2 Brian1954, Aug 31, 2025 at 10:02 AM
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  3. IwasBirchyFirst

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    Thank you for the information, very helpful! First that I've heard about the reconditioning. I wonder if that is what 3rd parties are doing to sell lower priced packs...
     
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