Solar panel trickle charger for Prius.

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    Since my Prius is parked on the street outside in the sun I would find my Prius 12 volt battery would be too dead to start my car.

    Here is the parts list.

    Look at this on eBay
    100A Solar Panel Charge Controller 12V 24V Regulator Auto Mppt Battery Dual USB | eBay

    Look at this on eBay
    30W 18V Outdoor USB Monocrystalline Solar Panel Battery Charger Motorhome | eBay

    These parts added up to about $40 and now is part of my solar power trickle charger keeping my 12 volt power full and healthy.
    The PWM controller can handle up to 200 watt solar panel and keep my ARB fridge running all day when I'm out for a long weekend camping.
    It was easy to install and has many features to maintain battery of all types lithium, Lead Acid and AGM. It also has two usb ports for charging devices.

    I will upload photos of my set up and show you various ways for the small panel location.
     
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    Here are the photos. 20210503_124426.jpg 20210503_124202.jpg 20210503_124015.jpg 20210502_172201.jpg 20210502_171927.jpg
     
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    More photos. 20210503_141553.jpg 20210503_141542.jpg 20210503_141443.jpg

    SM-J737T1 ?
     
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    Nice!

    Thanks for the links!
     
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    looks good, well done!(y)
     
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    Can it keep up? Good question.

    How big is that panel, maybe 12 cm x 30 cm? Solar power (total from the Sun at the Earth) is around 1KW per square meter, and solar panel efficiency is around 20% (.2). So the power from a panel like that, is at most 1000 * .12 * .3 * .2 = 7W. Assuming the electronics are 100% efficient, the corresponding current is 7W/12V = 583 mA. So, under ideal circumstances, that is more than enough to offset the 15-20 mA car off current, even though that off current is 24 h/day whereas the charging current is more like 10 h/day.

    The thing is, that panel is not likely to be in ideal conditions unless the owner moves it around during the day. The rule of thumb is, I believe, that panels which have indirect sunlight put out about half as much power as those in direct sunlight. If the panel is not built well a dark shadow (neither direct nor indirect light) falling on just one part could drop the output to next to nothing. This is because no current flows in these devices unless they are in light. The poorly made ones just put a bunch of solar cells in series, and if any one cell sees no light it shuts off current flow through the whole chain. Better made ones use diodes to shunt current from still working cells around the ones which are off. Those just lose power more or less as a function of the area which is shaded, it isn't all or nothing. There are also geometry issues - the calculation above only applies if the light is parallel to the panel's normal vector. There is likely a loss factor of somewhere between .5 and .7 because of this. The glass will also block some of the light, so maybe another factor of .5?

    Rough calculations, but it suggests that a small panel like that, if it is of high quality, could keep the 12V charged as long as the car was parked in a reasonably sunny location.
     
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    I'm looking at doing the solar panel and charger. ? Leaving it on when the car is running? It's going to be a college first car. Not sure they would remember to turn it off and on. Just thinking I might need to go the extra step of installing a relay to shut it off when the car is running.

    ? Got any updates from your experience?
     
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    I'm using
    Renogy 10W Solar panel
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    Renogy Wanderer10A Amp12V/24V PWM Negative Ground Solar Charge Controller w/LCD
     
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    This one is much more expensive but is likely the best one can do for extending the life of the also very expensive Prius AGM battery:

    12 Volt Solar Battery Charger Desulfator | BatteryMINDer SCC-1224

    The panel is twice as many watts and the charger has the company's "always on" desulfator, which many people claim actually works. Don't ask me why, but it costs $40 less if purchased from the company's Amazon Store rather than directly from the company.
     
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    Desulfating chargers produce pulses of voltage that exceed the normal 12–15 volt range, and some people are leery of exposing the electronics in the car to that, and prefer to use such a charger on a battery only when it's not connected to the car.
     
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    This one uses radio frequency pulses. On my multimeter there is some variation in current but not voltage. It is really unlikely the multimeter can see what is really going on. According to google's AI:

    I spoke to their tech support at one point and all he would say was that it was "radio frequency". (Which band, kind of matters!) In short, I think their method is just to PWM whatever voltage they would otherwise apply, possibly all the way down from 0 to V and back, but I have no idea what duty cycle they use. If I had an oscilloscope I would look, but I don't.