Life expectancy

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  1. Hayslayer

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    Ok, since you apparently didn't read it, the answer was given in post 14. White population, African American population, Latino population. Do I really need to tell you which map goes with each population? Is it really that complicated? No racism. Just facts from the census. I suppose racism is your go-to answer? Seems about right for you. Typical nutcase that just screams racist racist racist at every opportunity, even at people he doesn't know. You've certainly deleted more "drunk" posts than anyone else I've ever seen, where you go on some whack rant. Do you think life habits don't affect life expectancy? really? Are you that far into denial of reality?
     
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    Well, ok. The thread was started with the topic of life expectancy, inspired by a Newsweek analysis of life expectancy by state and political party control by state.

    Hayslayer has contributed some maps that reflect ethnicity proportions by county.

    I wonder if there's a source that has the life expectancy down to county level. Failing that, if the raw data from the ethnicity graphs are available, it would be straightforward to aggregate them into per-state figures.

    Someone could feed the life expectancy numbers into an analysis-of-variance routine with both the party control and the ethnicity figures as possible influences, and compare the strength-of-influence estimates that come out. There might be some other potential influences worth also including, like socioeconomic status.

    I'm not sure I'm smart enough to draw those kinds of conclusions just by gazing at one set of pretty maps showing one of the proposed factors. Maybe if they could be overlaid with similar pretty maps of party control and of life expectancy....
     
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    no wonder paul gets frustrated
     
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    Just a google search (for example: Hispanic life expectancy compared to white) shows average life expectancy of latinos/hispanics is ~1 year longer than white, and provides several explanations including lifestyle and social differences and even the effect of 'healthier' immigrants vs 'less healthy' staying in their home country. Similar to general health of military members being better due to the initial selection process. The same search for black shows life expectancy is ~5 years less than white.

    For the sake of simplicity, overall life expectancy of a state's population is just math and "-5" has a significant effect.
     
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    To your point... Worldometer's latest data: http://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/ ranks the US at #48. And here are the top 19:

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    interesting that females live longer...
     
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    Walking through Walmart this morning to get some more spaghetti noodles, passed by a 6 pack of doughnuts, for $1.69 CDN.
     
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    oh, i used to love donuts, until they put me on statins
     
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    Anyone notice any change in your personality on the statins? I heard that's a thing?
     
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    One of my family members at age 98 in Oklahoma:
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    Frank died April 8, 1958 when I was 8 years old. At 75, I'm and shooting for 100 years.

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    In this powerful 1948 photograph taken at Cowboy Hill, Frank “Pistol Pete” Eaton—98 years old and still standing strong—poses beside his eldest daughter. His face, etched with nearly a century of sun, dust, and grit, tells the story of a life fully lived, while his posture remains steady, and his presence unyielding. Dressed in his signature wide-brimmed hat and frontier attire, Eaton seems almost out of place in the postwar world, a living relic of the Old West whose legacy is woven into the fabric of American history. This isn't just a family snapshot; it’s a quiet moment where the past, embodied in a father’s enduring spirit, meets the present through the gaze of his daughter.

    Frank Eaton’s life reads like a classic frontier tale. At just eight years old, he witnessed the murder of his father at the hands of former Confederate guerrillas, and from that moment, he made a solemn vow to avenge the death. By 15, his speed with a six-shooter had already earned him the nickname "Pistol Pete" from U.S. Marshals. Over the years, he tracked down those responsible, proving himself not only as an expert marksman but as a man of unshakable resolve. He didn’t boast, he didn’t bluff—he simply delivered on his promises, with a steady hand and an unwavering sense of justice.

    Yet Frank Eaton’s legacy is about more than vengeance and gunfire. After his days as a gunfighter, he worked as a blacksmith, raised a family, and eventually became a storyteller, sharing his experiences of the frontier with future generations. His larger-than-life persona even inspired the Oklahoma State University mascot, cementing his place in modern-day culture. In this photograph, we don’t just see a legendary figure from the past; we see a father, an elder, and a man who lived long enough to witness the transformation of the Wild West into a new era. It's a portrait of endurance, loyalty, and the long shadow of justice carried with quiet dignity into the twilight of his years.

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    What era is that Bob?
     
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    Before the invention of color (see updated post.)

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    that's an amazing pic, especially for a north easterner. i remember going out to california in the 80's, and reading about the cowboys and indians as late as the early 1900's, and they violence and troubles that were still going on then. it was an education i didn't get in school, we were focused on communism
     
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    idk, where do you go from crazy?
     
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    A 1948 photo with him being 98 years old. His face, etched with nearly a century of sun, dust, and grit,= born in 1850
    At just eight years old, he witnessed the murder of his father at the hands of former Confederate guerrillas

    Yet, the Civil War started in April 1861...............

    Did the media also totally suck in the mid 1900's or am I missing something....
     
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    Perhaps you missed this:
    A war seldom ends instantly. Sometimes “payback” takes a little longer. For example, Eichman.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    I'm still perplexed, though. If he was 98 in 1948, he was born in 1850. If he was 8 when his father was murdered, that happened in 1858. The secessionist states began seceding two years later, in 1860, and they formally declared themselves the Confederate States in 1861. So it puzzles me how someone can be called a "former Confederate" three years before he could first have been a Confederate.

    Is something just wrong with the dates? Or was the murderer, maybe, someone who had taken part in guerrilla actions a couple years before any state actually seceded?

    Edit: ok, wait, I got it. The text says "in this powerful 1948 photo" but that wasn't taken when he was 98. He was 98 ten years later, when he died, as Bob wrote, in 1958.

    Re-edit: ok, wait again, I don't got it. The photo caption does say he was 98 then. And that also seems to be the sense of Bob's first sentence. Was he 108 when he died?
     
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    Back then there were people who always lived here and they used to call these people the pale ones with a forked tongue. As in they never told the truth about nothing, especially when it came to stealing people's land.