Disease Prevention and Health Reseach

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  1. tochatihu

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    "since we're off topic, i see that the admin authorized leucovorin for autism." @bisco posted elsewhere but it's on topic here..

    It has been studied for examples:

    Treatment of Folate Metabolism Abnormalities in Autism Spectrum Disorder - PMC
    The Soluble Folate Receptor in Autism Spectrum Disorder: Relation to Autism Severity and Leucovorin Treatment - PMC

    FDA reviewed literature on that and relabeled it. No longer only for cancer chemotherapy.

    Rain on that parade can be viewed in these examples:

    Why Leucovorin is Not a “Breakthrough Treatment” For Autism - Emergent Divergence
    What science says about leucovorin, the drug Trump touted for autism | CNN
    https://www.science.org/content/article/trump-s-autism-initiative-embraces-little-tested-vitamin-treatment

    And prescribing physicians will assess factors and make recommendations. As they always do.

    Folic acid itself has been used in pregnancy against spina bifida (if my memory serves). It is also one of the inexpensive and 'harmless' vitamin supplements here, so I do indulge.
     
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    Good additional RNA info from @Trollbait. This is why people collecting RNA store it at -78 oC before analyses. There is a chemical you can add to RNA samples if one is collecting out beyond where such freezers are available. I don't remember it's its name but must block RNA hydrolysis.

    Probably not a good thing to injest :eek:
     
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    Also have to pay extra for the RNA-ase free supplies, and neutralize any -ases on the work surfaces.
     
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    Chikungunya virus disease is transferred to humans by Aedes mosquitoes

    Chikungunya fact sheet


    and with a current outbreak in China
    Thousands fall ill as mosquito fever explodes across southern China | ScienceDaily

    One current vaccine includes not-quite-dead-enough virus
    Chikungunya Vaccines | Chikungunya Virus | CDC

    And that (see related on polio) is a reason for concern.

    Chikungunya causes manageable disease in most humans but can whack newborns or those exposed in utero (see also Zika virus in re).

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    There are many viral diseases to attend to. Some with mosquito (and bat) linkages teach us habitat things. Others go straight through the air and access hosts by way of personal poor exposure management including respiratory masking.

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    Viruses are always on the hunt for hosts. Humans are (let's say inadvertently) offering. We ought to make our offers less appealing and do better on vaccinations. We need this planet, and need to limit viral drag on the human enterprise.
     
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    "People with cancer who coincidentally received the mRNA (COVID) shots before starting drugs designed to unleash the immune system against tumors lived significantly longer than those who didn’t get vaccinated ..."

    https://www.science.org/content/article/surprise-bonus-covid-19-vaccines-bolstering-cancer-treatment

    These preliminary results suggest that mRNA vaccinations might deliver collateral benefits. Must be weighed against mRNA harms, if they exist.

    US in short-term future may not be where that will happen. Happily there are alternatives.
     
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    that's a nice benefit. hopefully, it proves out. we're still doing some research here, and pharma has a vested interest.
     
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    Comments have been recently posted nearby about the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). There may be interest in exploring that here. Start:
    Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)
    Which includes link for searching VAERS database.
    There are now >2 million entries in VAERS database. While it is possible that some US medical professionals particularly those administering vaccines are unaware of VAERS, I could not conclude that it is poorly known among them.
    There have been >190 publications in biomedical journals analyzing aspects of VAERS database:
    My NCBI Collection 64297814 - PubMed
    of which I provide links to these related to serious outcomes occurring after COVID vaccinations:
    Reporting rates for VAERS death reports following COVID-19 vaccination, December 14, 2020-November 17, 2021 - PubMed
    Outcomes at least 90 days since onset of myocarditis after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in adolescents and young adults in the USA: a follow-up surveillance study - PubMed
    Safety Monitoring of an Additional Dose of COVID-19 Vaccine - United States, August 12-September 19, 2021 - PubMed
    COVID-19 Vaccine Safety in Children Aged 5-11 Years - United States, November 3-December 19, 2021 - PubMed
    Safety Monitoring of COVID-19 Vaccine Booster Doses Among Persons Aged 12-17 Years - United States, December 9, 2021-February 20, 2022 - PubMed

    TL;DR Those five do not convince me that COVID vaccinations are linked to increases in serious outcomes. Certainly, anyone else can examine the pubmed database and report here what they learn.

    It would be particularly interesting if any biomedical publications in biomedical journals provide evidence of COVID vaccinations linkage to increases in serious outcomes. Whether or not based on VAERS. With particular attention as to whether they have been withdrawn or retracted from journals.
     
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    but it's much easier just to repost what you read on the dark web
     
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    Oh staaaap. We want to know things as accurately as they have been presented. Medical professionals are in that demanding field for honorable reasons, but on the side I'm sure some are also financially driven (I usta teach premeds at a little college in New Hampshire). But it seems like a collapse of reality to suppose that Doctors are hiding Important Truths from US for $ gains.
     
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    One expected outcome of a vaccination is a second vaccination should induce an immune response and be 'difficult.' Speculation, COVID vaccine protection may have imprecise effectiveness leading subsequent vaccinations having more side effects. Fortunately we have decades of flu vaccination history that show it does, for most give a local peak during the most contagious climates and mutes a year later.

    We don't have decades of COVID history to draw upon ... yet. It would be an expensive study but 'nice to have.' Meanwhile, I'll get mine soon enough ... another sample set of 1.

    Bob Wilson