Featured Waymo kills beloved neighborhood cat

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Gokhan, Nov 4, 2025 at 3:34 AM.

  1. dbstoo

    dbstoo Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2012
    1,397
    752
    0
    Location:
    Near Silicon Valley
    Vehicle:
    2024 Prius Prime
    Model:
    XSE Premium
    In this days and age the animals are less likely to be caught in the car's working parts. I drove my 2017 Prius Prime all the way across town with a possum all curled up and happy on the exhaust (???) manifold. The engine did not start during the entire trip. The animal was first detected by the grease monkey in the pit at the quick oil change joint, and we took everything we had to chase him out of the car.

    On the other hand, we've had various rodents expire in the dash boards of our cars. I hate digging them out of the car's ventilation system.
     
  2. dbstoo

    dbstoo Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2012
    1,397
    752
    0
    Location:
    Near Silicon Valley
    Vehicle:
    2024 Prius Prime
    Model:
    XSE Premium
    I recovered quickly enough. I trapped the gas tank between my thighs, breaking the tank mount off the tank. I locked my arms straight ahead so that the handlebars could not twist and throw me over the top of the VW.

    I wanted to kill the kids who piled out of the car and laughed as I rolled in pain on the ground next to their car. I could not stand up for the first hour or two.
     
  3. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    28,612
    16,159
    0
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    The weakness of LIDAR is it is obvious to the mob making them easy targets.

    Bob Wilson
     
  4. Isaac Zachary

    Isaac Zachary Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2018
    2,499
    1,254
    1
    Location:
    USA
    Vehicle:
    Other Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    I'm not saying automated driving is better than human driving (yet anyhow).

    But if a human driver drove over the cat, it wouldn't be on the news. People drive over pets and other animals all the time. I bet there's a daily number someone, and that would be just a guess.

    But if one autonomous car drives over one cat, then it's a top story in headline news and people all over the country start shouting "ban them!" even if statistically this is a rare occasion for autonomous cars.

    It's kind of like saying EV's catch on fire. One EV catches on fire and it's headline news. A thousand ICEVs catch on fire and nobody notices.
     
  5. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    28,612
    16,159
    0
    Location:
    Huntsville AL
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tesla Model 3
    Model:
    Prime Plus
    After three weeks ‘testing and self taught’ Autopilot 6 years ago, it drives better than this 75 year old. Only now I know it takes ~2 hours to properly train someone else.

    Bob Wilson
     
  6. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    23,385
    12,471
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Who is using just LIDAR? Are there proponents calling for just using it?

    Waymo cars have it backed up with RADAR and cameras.
    Meet the 6th-generation Waymo Driver: Optimized for costs, designed to handle more weather, and coming to riders faster than before

    Exactly.
    Robot cars have better 'vision' coverage than a human driver, but that doesn't mean all blind spots are eliminated, nor that the software can make a misjudgement.
     
  7. ChapmanF

    ChapmanF Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2008
    27,358
    17,961
    0
    Location:
    Indiana, USA
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    Maybe the point was that using LIDAR at all, whether or not in conjunction with other technologies, makes a car an easy target thanks to LIDAR stuff visibly sticking out.
     
  8. Trollbait

    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    23,385
    12,471
    0
    Location:
    eastern Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Whoops, I misread that. My bad.

    That isn't a LIDAR issue. LEXUS, Mercedes, and others have LIDAR, and I doubt the sensors are sticking out. The issue is that Waymo doesn't make cars. They buy an existing model, and install their sensor pods on them. The Zeekr MIX is the latest one. The pods aren't just LIDAR, but also RADAR, some of the cameras, and even speakers.