Hi Everyone I live in Quebec and purchased a set of 4 x Schrader 33500 EZ tpms from Canadian Tire Single Sensor Solution combining 314.9, 315 and 433 MHz applications into one sensor performing a TPMS sensor relearn on the vehicle (Their website claims that these are compatible with 2023 Toyota Prius Prime so long as they are programmed at installation) I paid another $40 for the installation while they were mounting winter tires on their own set of brand new rims After I came back home and was driving in the evening the tpms indicator on the dash lit up and I see --- in the dash for the TPMS screen Is there a re-learn or calibration that needs to be done for the car to pick up the new TPMS sensors. If someone has had a similar problem, I would appreciate to find out how it was resolved. I want to be informed before I go back to the tire shop and demand why its not working. Thanks in advance
I think it's in the manual. There's a whole section on it with a lot of blah blah in it. Here's only one page, for rotation. I think it's needlessly complex.
The car can remember two sets of tyres. It is capable of detecting new sensors without special tools, but only they're if they're of the newer type. From the "so long as they are programmed at installation" note, yours are presumably of the older type, which would mean it can't detect them from scratch. Given that the car is apparently not listening to these sensors, your best hope is that installers DID program the codes in, as they were supposed to, but they helpfully programmed them into the blank spaces for the second set, rather than overwriting your initial set. But they did that without actually selecting the second set, which you should be able to do now. Procedure for that is in a page close to the one posted above - "Selecting wheel set". Menu entries TPWS Setting -> Tyre Set Switching -> Register Valve / ID -> Tyre Set X. If you flip that, maybe it will start working. (After maybe 5 minutes of driving). If not, try flipping back to the other set, and then try the rotation thing above. Last resort before going back to the installers would be try a from-scratch registration as per the section "Registering ID codes", but I would not expect that to work with the sensors you have. (And I would be concerned that using that menu entry would make it forget a sensor set, thus forcing you to go back to the dealer to reprogram the old-style ones. Take care not to use it on the old sensors' set when you get them working. But maybe it's sensible enough to not blank codes unless it sees some new codes to replace them with.). Car Care Nut video about the two Toyota sensor systems, which may be helpful:
Watching video-it is 4 years old. Brings back memories of the Ford Exploder. edit: It looks like that Schrader needs a scan tool: https://www.schradertpms.com/en/our-products/schrader-ez-sensor-familyr Too bad, because non-OEM direct replacements are available. This is what I came up on Amazon for a '25 Prius:
Thanks Velvetfoot and KMO for the suggestions. I did choose the Register New Tire Set. After that I did the Tire Rotation thing and since then its still been in that mode. i.e. I see the 3 dashes '---' instead of the actual tire pressure. Its been 3 days now and I can't get out of the tire rotation mode I have an OBD II device and that seems to be registering the tire pressure and temperature on my phone, which is paired to the device. Is there a way I can reset the entire thing and then try again after that? Or should I just head to Canadian Tire who installed the tpms sensors. I am worried that if they messed up, now when I install my summer tires, which came with the OEM tpms sensors it might not work either
The "register new" option was my last option to try, which I thought could break it by forgetting any codes they did register. Did you try the my option of the tyre set switch? Maybe that's what you meant. The choices in the menu are really badly worded. "Tyre Set Switching > Register New Valve / ID > Tyre Set X" Identifies and registers new IDs for that set (requires new type valves) "Tyre Set Switching > Register Valve / ID > Tyre Set X" Looks for the old IDs for that set (hopefully works regardless of type if already registered) "Tyre Rotation" presumably does the same thing as reselecting the current set. Are you sure you can see pressures from the OBD? For you to be getting them from the car's but for the car not using them itself is weird. Does the OBD show you one or two sets of ID codes? I don't know any special reset procedures. But I'd hope that the "Register New Valve / ID" would always work to get the original sensors back operational.
Are those pressure values actually updating? Could be last pressure seen from the old set, maybe? Have you actually tried switching to the other tyre set? Your previous message sounded like you were trying to register new IDs, and you didn't respond last time I asked that. Do you get a different set of ID codes shown if you do switch set? Unfortunately, I don't really have any experience of debugging this sort of thing - someone who's grubbled in there more would likely be able to tell at a glance whether those IDs were the original Toyota ones or your replacements. I think I'd just go back to your tyre place and don't leave until they get the TPMS you paid them for to work. I don't see how they could possibly mess up the car's autosensing of the original set again. Main problem you're going to always have a risk of hitting would be you losing the replacement set IDs again by not using the tyre set function properly, and overwriting their IDs with by doing "register new" of the original set on top of them. But if you have that OBD scanner, could you not use it to reprogram the IDs yourself, once it's been established what they are?