shareholders approve $1tn pay package

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  1. bwilson4web

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    Source: Tesla shareholders approve $1tn pay package for Elon Musk | Tesla | The Guardian

    Tesla shareholders approved a $1tn compensation plan for CEO Elon Musk on Thursday, awarding the world’s richest person what would be the largest corporate payout in history if he meets the goals necessary to receive it.
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    The result of the vote was announced at the annual shareholder event in Austin, Texas, with more than 75% of investors voting in favor of the plan. . . .

    “Thanks, guys,” Musk said, after briefly dancing on stage alongside the company’s Optimus robots.

    Musk described the Optimus robots, which have not gone into mass production, as the future of the company and of humanity. He reiterated a claim that it would be “the biggest product of all time”, and suggested they could be used in everything from healthcare to prisons.
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    Thankfully, I no longer own TSLA shares. I converted them into a solar roof saving $130 last month. Clearly, he has lost interest in more efficient and affordable EVs.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    What was he thinking? EVs, solar, rockets, robots...richest man on earth. What a loser. :rolleyes:
     
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    i still can't decide whether to sell or hold. obviously, the guy has a screw loose
     
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    His last pay package seemed outrageous, thinking the sales & stock could never become as valuable as was required. Literally a miracle had to happen but it did. So what do sales have to bring in now - a few quadrillion dollars? The incentive amount seems ridiculous because its necessary requirements so scary high.
     
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    And how many of his products have been announced as delayed in recent months? FSD, roadster, $25-30k car, semi.

    Solar tiles, boring tunnels not so great.

    EVs as early provider, credit due. Storage batteries....good. But both facing cheaper, better competition.

    Political involvement as an asset to the company? Costly to a shareholder. Costly to the country.

    As a shareholder, maybe I'd be better off with him not in charge and let him drift to his other projects.
     
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    Well...75% of the other shares held want him.
     
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    mikefocke Prius v Three 2012, Avalon 2011

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    They are all scared of his connection to P47. I'll be Vanguard voted yes.
     
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    Scared? What do you consider fear.
     
  9. 3PriusMike

    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    Can you name one or two EVs that sell anywhere near as many and are profitable as well?

    Mike
     
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    My calculation is different:
    • Musk distraction - management not focused on their primary product, their bread-and-butter customers, eventually redirects their R&D to silly things for phantom customers.
    • Tesla's P/E ratio is approximately 306.39 as of early November 2025 set by 'popular vote'
    • Republican policies against affordable renewable power , especially wind, and efficient cars, EVs.
    My eyes see a Ponzi scheme before the unpredictable but inevitable collapse.

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    Looking back at your previous posts I'm estimating you sold somewhere around November 2024 due to politics with TSLA around $325. Let's estimate your solar package was $30k, so you sold about 100 shares, and then later tried to short a few, which didn't work out, right? TSLA is now $425+. If I saved $130 a month, but lost out on $10k in year #1, I'm not sure how thankful I would be. I think I'd be more like...."oops". Maybe that's fuzzy math.....whatever makes you happy though.

    I also saw a post where a comment was made that you're mistakenly believing TESLA is a car company. I agree with that, because it's not, and you still focus on the car aspect. The cars are just an information gathering stepping stone toward the front door of the house. You think computers revolutionized the world? That smart phones revolutionized the world? Just imagine what a truly full functional humanoid robot will do. An electric car will never change the world as much as that will, because every household, every business, every industry, will want them. Every day of every year they'll get better and better and the uses will grow. Eventually, just home healthcare and companionship alone will be a trillion dollar source of sales.
     
  12. 3PriusMike

    3PriusMike Prius owner since 2000, Tesla M3 2018

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    We are a long ways off from every household will want one...in terms of a robot that can truly be autonomous and not need baby sitting to make sure it doesn't do something stupid or harmful. And even when that is achieved, everyone isn't going to want one that costs $20K plus any maintenance.

    And by "long ways off" just look at autonomous cars and how quickly that is happening.

    Mike