Vaccine provocation

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  1. futurist

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    Given we had opposite reactions to P/M vaxes... does it count for much to say, my Shingrix vax wasn't bad at all...? :confused:
     
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    I get to say my Shingrix experience wasn't bad at all compared to what I'd been primed to expect. :)
     
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    my second shingrix laid me up for a couple days...
     
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    covid shot this morning at walgreens, poorly run operation.
    i got the moderna mnexspike
     
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    is that a virtual pharmacy? do they have you hold the phone up to your arm?
     
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    With a message from RFK Jr, "Just eat a raw, unwashed carrot, you don't need a vaccine."

    Bob Wilson
     
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    a little achy today, and slight headache. i wonder if the latest iteration has less side effects
     
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    "i wonder if the latest iteration has less side effects" There may persist something of a misunderstanding about vaccine side effects. So I shall provoke here a bit more.

    Vaccines contain cells, or cell debris, or foreign molecules all intended to provoke your immune system directly. If your arm hurts after, or you get a headache or are laid low, this is understood to mean that your immune system responded.

    Vaccines also contain adjuvants that indirectly and somewhat mysteriously goad your immune response. To replace those with others that do less (in terms of side effects) would be somewhat contrary to purpose.

    Vaccines also contain water and (I assume only) NaCl to be isotonic with your extracellular spaces. Places. Millieu. Too much salt or too little would cause a pointless bit of pain until ions sort themselves out. Medical technology does not get that recipe wrong. I think :)

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    Edit: neglected to mention the most modern mRNA vaccines. They contain none of the main ingredients above. Instead, some mRNA that to survive enzymes floating about, and to 'hook up' will cells, is encased in lipids. Or buttered up as I prefer to say. To the best of my knowledge they contain no adjuvants.
     
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    If that youtube was posted to correct errors in mine, I accept those w/o being able to view it. It came from a respected poster :)
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    The 'buttered up' phrase knocked a 'grease me up' pop culture reference from my mind.
     
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    Were we not discussing important matters here, I would mention new TV series 'Plur1bus' where a naked RNA sequence makes all but a few humans into happy hive-minded people. It also killed about 1/10 of humanity outright. I've probably done enough distracting here.