Disease Prevention and Health Reseach

Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Mar 29, 2025.

  1. bisco

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    if vaccinations don't work, what are the antibodies they find upon testing doing?
     
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    If these vaccines worked...how come everyone still caught the bug?
     
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    Do you still think the vertebrate immune system works like Star Trek deflector shields?
     
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    I repeat...If these vaccines worked, how come everyone still caught the bug? Fact...active shooters are still catching it.
     
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    not everyone caught the bug, but vaccines don't always prevent getting it. they prepare your immune system so it's ready to fight the virus if encountered.
    do you have any idea how many peole vaccinated for the flu die each year?
     
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    I know first hand and through observation they do not work and will state it everytime I hear someone who says otherwise. FYR...I was one of those that was mandated by .gov to get the these shots or loose my career...and everything that infers. I followed said "orders", masked up, distanced, everything...and I still caught the bug 3 times "confirmed".

    So...You go right ahead and get your shots for the flu/s, COVID...or whatever else they are marketing today.
     
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    If the vaccines didn't work ... how come vaccinated people had a considerably lower death rate from this disease than unvaccinated people of the same age groups?

    I posted details here showing this 3 - 4 years ago. I believe several others posted similar findings from additional sources.

    Yes, it didn't completely prevent cases nearly as well as numerous people initially said it would. But it very clearly reduced severity and hospitalizations and death rates.
     
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    This bug mutated and became less viral...period. Even our College boy from China said this "would" happen way back when everyone was still walking around with dirty designer rags on their faces. Claiming a reduction in severity, hospitalizations and deaths became the fall back when these shots did not deliver as first advertised. The psyops worked...the shots did not.
     
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    There is a possibility that people inclined to obtain vax (specifically those not forced to do so) also had other behaviors such as wearing masks effectively, social distancing, hand washing, avoiding face touching. Those behaviors could reduce viral loadings with effect of slower viral production in corpus. Slower viral production would allow immune system to protect better. One is only naive until virus is onboard and immune system notices.

    There is a possibility that behaviors could lower death rates. It is not amenable to epidemiological study, but that does not rule out any possible contribution. I mention all this because even untestable possibilities ought to be recognized.

    Ignorance of vaccine efficacy studies is an object of derision or at least dismay here. I do it meself. But let not our other (smaller) ignorances sneak in.