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Discussion in 'Environmental Discussion' started by tochatihu, Oct 22, 2015.

  1. ChapmanF

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    sure to be played up in lurid "they're coming to take your beef!" videos, if not so being already
     
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    There is no 'they'. Beef production will not decrease for a long time. Or rather it will in years like 2025 (USA) when regional weather is adverse.

    There is no 'they' forcing consumption of insect protein either. However I expect more to be used for chicken and fish feed. Describing that in positive marketing terms is somebody else's problem. Insects produce protein with remarkably low greenhouse gas footprints, and the good species are much more omnivorous than we are.

    If a fella raised chickens outdoors, it would be a great challenge to prevent them from eating insects. That may be a marketing 'hook'.
     
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    they won't be taking it for at least 3 1/2 years
     
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    I've been reading a lot of articles about VPD and Gs, at need, and I spare readers more details. But among today's was entitled:

    "Magnetized water confers drought stress tolerance in moringa biotype via modulation of growth, gas exchange, lipid peroxidation and antioxidant activity"

    Authors did not mention what magnetized water is nor how they prepared it. An article's Methods section normally would. I cannot being Journal editor nor among Journal reviews that gave that a green light. But happily for me, they provided no data about VPD and Gs, so I am not obliged to include it in my work resulting from all this reading. That would require an asterisk and some explanation I'd rather not write.

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    Magnetized water sounds oooga boooga to me, but until I read what it actually is ... not much to say.
     
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    i think you can order it from tb12
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    Death Valley is notably dry area of California (some Nevada also within boundary). It had another big rain flood this year. So I got to wondering - Are such events changing over time?

    No one seems to have claimed so. Weather records for the (park) area have been kept since about 1916, so that time scale is available for direct analysis.

    2015 was characterized as having a "thousand-year flood". But by golly (by gully) 2022 had another even larger flood. Extrapolating from 100 years to a thousand is risky business.

    If a few more really wet years come in next few decades, people may dare to suggest that things are changing. But what about real long-tern records? It is realistically possible that thousands of years of sediment deposition are nicely stacked up in some local spots. Those stacks could have age determined by c14 (plant material) or a few different geological techniques. Flood years are marked by larger particle size of rocks in the stack. And so as they say, Bob's your uncle. I don't know why they say that.

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    Because 2025 flooded, spring 2026 will be another wildflower superbloom. Whoever finds that surprising would mark themselves as not really paying attention.

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    Blooms after desert rains was worked out by Frits Went decades ago. Desert plant seeds have germination inhibitors that take a lot of washing to remove. When that happens, the bloom booms and new seeds get buried to wait for sumpin to happen. Which it will, later or sooner.
     
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    Just now NPS reports deva (nice shorthand) road closures here:

    Alerts & Conditions - Death Valley National Park (U.S. National Park Service)

    If funding avails, repairs will be made to ease visits in Spring 2026.

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    When I was a young desert ecologist, I thought of dumping buckets of water in small areas to stimulate plant germination. To see where Frits Went went under field conditions. But alas, too many ideas, and this one never germinated.